Coach Jim Tressel out at Ohio State

[BernietheKid]

Pryor might be wise to wait on entering supplemental draft

• By Bucky Brooks NFL.com
• Analyst
• Published: <ABBR id=article-time class=value title=2011-06-08T08:38:50-0700>June 8, 2011 at 11:38 a.m. </ABBR>
• Updated: <ABBR id=article-updatedtime class=value title=2011-06-08T10:43:18-0700>June 8, 2011 at 01:43 p.m.</ABBR>

<ABBR class=value title=2011-06-08T10:43:18-0700>Terrelle Pryor isn’t ready for the NFL. Not even close.

In fact, the quarterback whose playing career is finished at Ohio State might be better suited to make a position change at the next level due to the numerous concerns about his game and potential as a signal-caller. Wide receiver or tight end would certainly suit his athleticism, but Pryor would still face a steep learning curve at each position, and the odds would be stacked against him.

Perhaps Pryor should seriously consider making a move down to an FCS (where he would likely still have to serve a five-game suspension) or NAIA school (where he could play right away) to further his development as a quarterback. He would get additional starts playing quarterback and benefit from added time in college to monitor his maturity, character and leadership skills.

If Pryor does decide to enter the NFL's supplemental draft (if there is one), his stock will be hindered by his perceived character flaws and off-field issues. His role in the NCAA scandal that has the potential to destroy Ohio State raises concerns about his decision-making and leadership. As the potential face of a franchise, his attitude, demeanor and work ethic must rate off the charts, and there are serious reservations about his intangibles.

On the field, as a third-year junior with 35 career starts, scouts have more than enough film to make a solid evaluation. Pryor is a multi-talented athlete with great size, strength and speed. Given those natural gifts, he brings a different set of skills to the offense as a dual threat. His athleticism and running abilities allow him to make plays on the perimeter, and he frequently uses those skills to flee the pocket under duress.

As a passer, Pryor possesses a strong arm but struggles with his accuracy and touch on most throws. His inconsistency as a passer can be attributed to his sloppy footwork and unrefined mechanics. He doesn't fully incorporate his lower body into his throws, causing the ball to sail or fall short on intermediate and deep passes.

Pryor's mechanical flaws will certainly take time to overhaul, but prospective teams will also need to help him make a mental makeover regarding his approach to the quarterback position. He struggles reading and recognizing coverage, which leads to late or inaccurate throws from the pocket. His lack of awareness and anticipation stands out on tape, as he frequently fails to lead his receivers into open windows against man or zone coverage.

On top of that, Pryor faces the arduous task of making the adjustment from playing in a spread offense to directing a pro-style system. He will not only have to adjust to retreating from under center, but he must learn how to read and process information while dropping back, which has proven to be a difficult challenge for previous spread quarterbacks.

While some will compare Pryor to Vince Young and Cam Newton, he falls well short of both players from a talent perspective. He doesn't possess the passing skills and natural talent of Newton, and isn't a playmaker of Young's ilk.

If Pryor stays in school, he has a steep hill to climb to become a second- or third-round prospect in the 2012 draft, with as many as four quarterbacks already viewed as possible first-round selections (and eight prospects regarded as early-round picks).

If Pryor does decide to throw his name in the supplemental draft this year, he will earn a mid-to-late round grade on most boards and probably hear his name called in the fifth round or lower on draft day.

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[BernietheKid]

Colt McCoy's wife, Rachel, implies some players at Texas accepted benefits

Published: Wednesday, June 08, 2011, 8:41 AM Updated: Wednesday, June 08, 2011, 8:41 AM

College football is a mess right now. USC had to give up its 2004 national title because Reggie Bush accepted extra benefits. And the latest scandal at Ohio State is another example of what is going on in college athletics.

Rachel McCoy, the wife of Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy, was on ESPN Radio recently and she had a few things to say about Colt's time at Texas.

Rachel said in the interview:

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People in Texas are just being friendly and they don't mean anything by it at all. They don't realize most of the time it is a violation. Texas is very clear with their players ... You cannot expect 19- to 20-year-old men to not accept free stuff while they're in college ... There's no way that college kids can really, honestly say no to all this stuff ... It's hard for a lot of these guys to even know ... I saw so many of his teammates who maybe didn't have some of that self-control to be able to say no to somebody. It's hard because you've got adults who you respect who you think will know what's right and what's wrong ...

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Colt McCoy's wife, Rachel, implies some players at Texas accepted benefits | cleveland.com

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by Flugel

I got some GREAT news for Oklahoma. Remember when USC beat you back in 2004 by about 40 points? You WON man.

Seriously, 7 years after that last whistle blew and y'all left the field with your heads between your tails - the NCAA got on it and decided you WON that game. Isn't it wonderful?

The problem with it all? People PAID to attend that game right? In doing so, many paid to travel and lodge right? Profits were made right? Did both Universities get a piece of the pie? WHAT IF it was announced, "WARNING: This game might not mean shit." Alot of interest, intrigue and money lost right???? Guess what comes first? $$$$.

I got news for you here - the NCAA is a complete crock of shit for pretending only 1 program is like Ohio State today. While I LOVED what Damajuki wrote about being a fan of a ND team that never cheats - I had season tix to Vandy the last 2 years. They also doesn't cheat when you see how many elite recruits they get. They're on on their 3rd Head Coach in 3 years. While ND is on their 2nd Head Coach.

And I'd MUCH rather do it the way Joe Paterno did it than Bobby Bowden. Deion Sanders had more gold around his neck than many jewelry stores could afford while it's been written he showed up to nighclubs in Tallahassee in Limos. Sound like an unpaid kid on scholarship? BUT, not to worry, Barry Switzer was the guy being made the example of while the NCAA refused to look into why the steroid infested program at Nebraska was piling up arrests right and left while it won and competed for National Championships.

Whether we're talking college or pro, teams that win in sin get placed on a pedastal UNTIL it ever gets decided to end the lookaway. I'm told the Rooneys are a class act while their first 4 Lombardi Trophies are as counterfeit as can be according to the author of "False Glory" that played there. THAT is what gets unfortunate if you don't get them all. We got people from Auburn actually feeling like they can call Ohio State cheaters when the ONLY difference is they got away with it for now. If you get em ALL there's less teams trying to see what they can get away with. If you keep the old "we'll just make an example out of the next Barry Switzer" so it scares team away from doing it - it wouldn't have happened 2 decades later right? Pretty tough for me to see Auburn as a Champion right now.

I think this is what some fans of Ohio State want. Consistency with handing out the Scarlet Letters. And why wouldn't they? I don't think anyone disagrees they need to be punsihed.

[nickers]

I really dont give a hoot what retard Pryor does...he can go lick a cows ass for all I care...

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by BernietheKid

Colt McCoy's wife, Rachel, implies some players at Texas accepted benefits

Published: Wednesday, June 08, 2011, 8:41 AM Updated: Wednesday, June 08, 2011, 8:41 AM

College football is a mess right now. USC had to give up its 2004 national title because Reggie Bush accepted extra benefits. And the latest scandal at Ohio State is another example of what is going on in college athletics.

Rachel McCoy, the wife of Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy, was on ESPN Radio recently and she had a few things to say about Colt's time at Texas.

Rachel said in the interview:

<B>

People in Texas are just being friendly and they don't mean anything by it at all. They don't realize most of the time it is a violation. Texas is very clear with their players ... You cannot expect 19- to 20-year-old men to not accept free stuff while they're in college ... There's no way that college kids can really, honestly say no to all this stuff ... It's hard for a lot of these guys to even know ... I saw so many of his teammates who maybe didn't have some of that self-control to be able to say no to somebody. It's hard because you've got adults who you respect who you think will know what's right and what's wrong ...

</B>

Colt McCoy's wife, Rachel, implies some players at Texas accepted benefits | cleveland.com

And Auburn has a National Championship and Heisman Trophy winning from a signing bonus. Apparently NOW is not the time for the NCAA to get quite as accurate as they want to be with Ohio State.

Folks, as much as we want to PRETEND the NCAA wants to do the right thing and send the RIGHT message - why do you suppose they waited SEVEN YEARS to punish the 2004 USC Team THIS WEEK? I got news for you - $$$$$$$ talked in a MAJOR LA market with NO pro football team like it or not. NOBODY on that team feels punished today. Who here thinks brat-slapping Oklahoma by about 50 points makes them feel like they LOST that game all of a sudden? Who on that team, feels like they forfeit their record? Best of all, MOST of the emotions are already settled to the concluded stage of outcome.

Anway, WHY did the NCAA make sure they postponned punishments of 5 OSU starters into next year as opposed to their upcoming Bowl Game at the time? The preference of $$$$ impacted by intrigue of matchup. This impacts viewer ratings for the networks already committed to cover the game as well as how many people from Ohio State will go to the Bowl location to dump all kinds of cake into lodging and game day expenses. Actions speak louder than words, so while the NCAA talks out 1 side of its mouth, they clearly have the other side covered with their actions.

They want us all to applaud that they caught 1 team cheating while we are able to read comments about Texas doing the same things. Does that make anyone beside me wonder why North Carolina's program didn't get nearly as Joe Friday'd when Mack Brown was running it? Think about it. All this recent stiff does is slap a bold font on the terms inconsistency and favoritism. It's ALWAYS done the lookaways for Bobby Bowden while Deion Sanders had more gold around his neck than your local jewelry stores have. Tom Osborne's program had every bit as much corruption as Barry Switzer's so the NCAA liked to pick and choose whom they wanted to punish. Leroy Hoard's old RA at Michigan was on the radio this week and he said he was told by Haord that LSU showed up with suitcases FULL of money to recruit him and sway his decision. That's a pretty corrupt football program that gets the steady lookaway. Why do we supposed Nick Saban was sooooo compelled to leave Michigan State for THAT school to improve that winning percentage? Let's not be naive here with he just woke up MORE INTELLIGENT in the Southeast.

I'm starting to think Joe PA isn't losing his mind. He's merely maintaining his ethics. Maybe their fasnbase will realize there's ethically better ways to do things in PA than the win in sin methods the Steelers have always been placed on a pedastal for.

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

So basically the federal gov't told Tressel to keep quiet and not mess with their investigation. As usual, the Vest did the right thing.

Fuck you witch hunt.

NCAA won't hit OSU with failure to monitor, lack of institutional control

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The NCAA has not found any new violations in the Ohio State case

Won't cite school with failure to monitor, lack of institutional control

Letter says Jim Tressel was only one who knew about player violations

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The NCAA's letter says former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel was the only university official who knew about player violations.
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NEW YORK (AP) -- The NCAA has told Ohio State that it won't face the most severe charges possible in the memorabilia-for-cash and tattoos scandal that cost football coach Jim Tressel his job.
Investigators said they found no evidence that Ohio State failed to properly monitor its football program or any evidence of a lack of institutional control, according to a letter sent to the university and released Friday.
NCAA investigators also said they have not found any new violations.
"Considering the institution's rules education and monitoring efforts, the enforcement staff did not believe a failure to monitor charge was appropriate in this case," the NCAA said in the letter sent Thursday.
The notice clearing Ohio State of the most serious of institutional breaches is a big break for the university, which will meet with the NCAA's committee on infractions on Aug. 12. That committee could accept penalties Ohio State already placed on itself or could pile on recruiting restrictions, bowl bans and other, stiffer sanctions.
The NCAA letter first reported by The Columbus Dispatch said that Tressel was the only university official who knew about the violations involving his players. He didn't report them to anyone else at the school.
Ohio State spokesman Jim Lynch said the NCAA's findings were consistent with the university's own investigation into what happened with the allegations surrounding Tressel and the players.
Tressel stepped down under pressure in May, months after the university discovered emails showing he'd been warned by an attorney in April 2010 about his players' involvement with a Columbus tattoo parlor owner. The coach knew players received cash and tattoos for autographs, championship rings and equipment but did not tell anyone at Ohio State or the NCAA for about nine months. NCAA rules -- and Tressel's contract -- specified that he had to disclose any and all information about possible violations.
The university announced earlier this month it would vacate the 2010 season, including its Sugar Bowl victory over Arkansas and its share of the Big Ten championship. It also self-imposed a two-year NCAA probation, in addition to suspending six players for the first five games and forcing Tressel out.
Ohio State also will overhaul its compliance office by the end of the year, creating a centralized office that will oversee athletics as well as other university departments, one of its trustees announced Friday. The move will strengthen oversight of all aspects of the university, said trustee Robert Schottenstein.
Shortly after Tressel ended his 10-year run at Ohio State, which included the 2002 national championship, star quarterback Terrelle Pryor -- one of the suspended players -- left the school, hoping to try his luck in an NFL supplemental draft.
Tressel met with Ohio State and NCAA officials on Feb. 8 to discuss the allegations. According to a transcript released Friday, he said that he made a mistake by keeping the information from his superiors.
He also said he knew that NCAA sanctions were "inevitable."
"It was pretty simple. We were either gonna be horribly in trouble from a criminal standpoint, or we're gonna be minorly involved in drug, you know, buying and stuff, or we're gonna face the NCAA reality that we did some things with our memorabilia we're not allowed to do, " he said. "I was totally confident one of those was gonna happen."
The U.S. attorney's office notified Ohio State officials last December that it discovered some Ohio State memorabilia during a raid. That led to the investigation into five players who were suspended, but allowed to participate in the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 4.
Tressel was asked if he would have never come forward if the government had not sent the letter. "Never is a long time. I don't know," he replied.
"I had confidence in the federal government that they were gonna do what they were supposed to do," he said. "They didn't need my help to do it, nor did they need my interruption to do it."
The NCAA also said in its letter released Friday that it investigated a Sports Illustrated report that said nine more players sold memorabilia to the tattoo parlor owner, but confirmed that only one had any dealings with the man.
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[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by TheBestPlayersPlay

So basically the federal gov't told Tressel to keep quiet and not mess with their investigation. As usual, the Vest did the right thing.

I read the story a couple of times - I am not following you on this (albeit I would like to).

The Fed Govt seems to have blown the lid off so Tressel HAD to say something, not that he not say anything.

I could be mistaken. Can you show me how you came to this conclusion?

On a side note: Damn I am going to hate not having this guy coach the Buckeyes......

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

Tressel said ...and I had heard rumblings of this through out the process ...that he knew one way or another there would be repercussions for this ...be it criminally or by sanctions from the NCAA. He had a choice to make and he made it. He wanted to let the federal gov't do their job without him interfering. He chose sanctions, he stood in the face of the NCAA and simply stated "you are not a greater entity than the federal law", kept quiet until the Feds got their guy ....the end.

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by TheBestPlayersPlay

He wanted to let the federal gov't do their job without him interfering

I am not seeing where you're getting this idea. Tressell said nothing back in April 2010. Did he know about the Fed Govt's investigations back in April? Because if so, he still could have told the Ohio State compliance officers. He wasn't protecting anything.

I know we're all fans and I am fucking pissed off he isn't the coach, but lets not get fucking ridiculous here. Protecting the Fed Govt's investigation? Yeah.... not so much.