Is VP Joe Biden the most out of touch in the USA?

[Danamal]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

If we completely ignore his views on foreign policy (as current basic global economic models won't allow them), Ron Paul is our best option for "fixing" our country/economy.

And I hate the image, however justified, that Ron (mostly his followers) get as the conspiracy theorist/Alex Jones crowd. But I can't sit back and rollover while our current two parties continue to shove their shit policy into my turd-cutter.

I'm pretty sure it took Obama 350 million to get the whitehouse.
What third party can come up with that kind of money and even if they did the current system is so entrenched it makes me think that any good someone could accomplish would end up going down the path of Houston and Elm with a grassy knoll thrown in for good measure.

[Legacy Fan]

Obama's already spent more on the "stimulus/recovery" than we have on the Iraq war. No end in sight for either.

[Danamal]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

Obama's already spent more on the "stimulus/recovery" than we have on the Iraq war. No end in sight for either.

Lets be clear,
Obama/Bush made that happen.
When you consider that at this point in time both parties are desperately trying to separate themselves from one another that they find themselves approving the same polices from "big money" what does that say about our society going forward?
We are choosing the different talking points from the same company and in the end there is no change we can hope for from either party.
Those that believe our two party system has something to offer them is simply buying into a failed experiment.

[Legacy Fan]

Exactly. But I only bring up the Iraq war because that is what you should expect to hear leading up to November as the Dems desperately try to hang on in Congress.

"Bush spent this, Bush got us into that."

While I don't like how Bush spent, nor the war he spent it on, it's nice to have some perspective, aka "Bullshit Primer."

[Danamal]

Bush/Obama=same shit.
We voted for them but they both work for somebody on Wall St.
Democrat or Republican gives us something to call each other to keep our eyes off the men behind the curtain.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by Danamal

Bush/Obama=same shit.
We voted for them but they both work for somebody on Wall St.
Democrat or Republican gives us something to call each other to keep our eyes off the men behind the curtain.

The employers name you're looking for is Goldman-Sachs.

[Sez.EJ]

No one who would be a good president would not have the job. It's a thankless, endless battle. Anyone who would really be good at it is not going to run because they are doing well in the private sector. So we end up with politicians who are good with words...but no clue about how to run the country.. and they are surrrounded by more of the same in the house and senate.

[Tobalaz]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

Obama's already spent more on the "stimulus/recovery" than we have on the Iraq war. No end in sight for either.

That's totally unfair to lay that on Obama.
We couldn't have all those rich people going bankrupt due to poor decision making. They need millions of dollars because they have no instincts on how to take care of themselves.
For god's sake, you ever see the Rachael Zoe project on tv?
These people hire other people to dress themselves!
They'd be totally lost on $1000 unemployment a month!
Imagine what kind of hit the economy would take if these people couldn't go out and buy new yachts to race in on the weekends or private jets to slip away from their wives on "business trips" to have sex with underage boys in Thailand!
It would be inhumane!
As responsible citizens and taxpayers, it's out duty to see to it these poor souls have the necessities to live their humble lifestyles.
If we didn't, what kind of people would we be?

[mohican]

Originally Posted by Jax Dawg

Palin vs Hillary? Now that's something to worry about!

I don't like any of the possibilities right now for candidates to be President in 2012 for either party, somebody needs to step up their game for the good of the country.

Ron Paul, except he's getting too old would be my choice for Potus.

I also like Christie, Gov of New Jersey.

[Danamal]

Originally Posted by mohican

Ron Paul, except he's getting too old would be my choice for Potus.

I also like Christie, Gov of New Jersey.

Christie aka Fat Bastard is an asshole and not a very good Governor but then again it's Jersey so who cares but he sucks ass.