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[Flugel]

Originally Posted by Greythan

Gotta agree with Flugs on this one.

I'm focused on this year. Its hard to fathom any fan in late July talking about ...

- Switching to a new offensive system the following year
- Excited at the notion of acquiring another team's rookie 4th round pick before he's seen any live NFL action

Boggles the mind.

Thanks Greythan! It's hard to believe we have Browns fans that are rooting against our rookies (ie: Haden and McCoy) while at the same time they're hoping other rookies (Jimmy Clausen, Mike Kafka and Dez Bryant) excell.

My conclusion for those thinking that way is the Browns fan in them is getting shutout by the ego of needing to be right about predictions/prospects. I don't see a prognosis of fun in that at all for them. Just keepin it real.
- Tom F.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by Flugel

It's hard to believe we have Browns fans that are rooting against our rookies (ie: Haden and McCoy) while at the same time they're hoping other rookies (Jimmy Clausen, Mike Kafka and Dez Bryant) excell.

Come on. It's so hard to believe because it's so patently FALSE.

Saying that you wished the Browns selected someone else is kinda different than hoping the guy they did draft sucks. And by 'kinda' I mean 'totally.'

[Thaak]

Originally Posted by mz.

Come on. It's so hard to believe because it's so patently FALSE.

Saying that you wished the Browns selected someone else is kinda different than hoping the guy they did draft sucks. And by 'kinda' I mean 'totally.'

It is incredibly easy to draw these conclusions, though, based on the type of conversation started. I mean seriously, what is the purpose of creating this thread, except that you are just trying to create more information on why McCoy and Haden were bad picks? Seriously.

I know this is a slow time of year. If you want to discuss Kafka for potential fantasy value or for shits and giggles fine. If I, or Inspecta, or Flugles started a thread on Kafka, and just stuck to the facts of what was said without any commentary about the Browns going and getting him... most might find it somewhat interesting and might choose to discuss it.

But because Shep is who he is, and he redundantly adds the commentary (we all know why he'd start a thread like this, so adding comments about him being a good target for the Browns in 2011 is superfluous), it makes these kinds of threads more irritating and flabberghasting than interesting.

[mz.]

Sure, you and others may find these types of threads irritating, but you're essentially questioning whether shep is a Browns fan? Really??

[Rich4eagle]

Originally Posted by Shep

Shit. Wonder what it would take to get him when we go WCO after this season?

*The Eagles quarterback who has caused the most offseason buzz in the building is not Kevin Kolb. And it’s not Michael Vick, either. It’s Mike Kafka, the team’s fourth-round pick out of Northwestern. Philly offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg tells me Kafka has been “on fire” in offseason practices, and praised him for his quick decisions. He said Kafka has been one of the most accurate rookie passers in the offseason that he ever has seen. Sounds like this kid has an outstanding chance to develop into a starter in that top-notch Eagles system.

I could see Kafka was a real deal..........good take Shep

[Riffer X]

We got huge Kafka fans coming out the woodwork now, this is awesome.

[golfer704u]

I don't think it's a question of anyone's fandom as much as whether or not being RIGHT is more important to them.

[mz.]

Can't both be important to a person?

[golfer704u]

I would venture to guess it's important to all of us, just some more than others.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

I would venture to guess it's important to all of us, just some more than others.

Of course, but I was responding to...

Originally Posted by Flugel

It's hard to believe we have Browns fans that are rooting against our rookies (ie: Haden and McCoy) while at the same time they're hoping other rookies (Jimmy Clausen, Mike Kafka and Dez Bryant) excell.

...which is categorically wrong, I'd wager.

I mean, I brought up Mike Williams (SYR) up 50K times, but that doesn't mean I want him to be better than MoMass (though he will be!).............

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by mz.

Of course, but I was responding to...



...which is categorically wrong, I'd wager.

and I am not so sure that it might not please some greatly if Clausen ends up better than McCoy.

[Thaak]

Originally Posted by mz.

Sure, you and others may find these types of threads irritating, but you're essentially questioning whether shep is a Browns fan? Really??

I'm not questioning whether he's a Browns fan. I know he wants them to do well and win just like the rest of us.

He is just annoying and we don't like it.