Browns Roster Moves!

[Thaak]

Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

I can't see cutting both Coye and BMac. We haven't seen anyone step up to justify thinning that pile, IM0. Something doesn't add up.

Why doesn't it add up? Cutting Coye Francies is a foregone conclusion. I mean he couldn't get on the field last year, and this year he's been hurt all off season.

As for B-Mac... he wasn't Mangini's or Ryan's type of CB. If Chancellor showed good stuff early, and they liked what they saw out of Hayden, Brown and Adams (who backs up both Safety and CB), then why doesn't it make sense? I mean Keep 4 Safeties, 4 CB's and Adams. What do they need Francies or BMac for?

[nmills]

you would think we could've got a late round pick for Bmac. He's still young and has a lot of experience as a starter.....If he ends up with a team with a pass rush like Jets, Ravens I think he'll flourish.

[Thaak]

Originally Posted by nmills

you would think we could've got a late round pick for Bmac. He's still young and has a lot of experience as a starter.....If he ends up with a team with a pass rush like Jets, Ravens I think he'll flourish.

I don't disagree generally, but B-Mac has two main problems:

1) This is also a strength. He takes risks in coverage. As often as his trying to jump routes helps him with pass defenses and interceptions, he also gets burnt on them. When the risks start to outweigh the strengths, as is the case with B-Mac last year, then he becomes more a liability than a help. This "strength" also helps him look good in preseason, because there isn't much in the way of film study and game planning around particular player's strengths and weaknesses during this time of the year. But in a real game, it can be, and has been game planned around.

2) He is a major liability in run support, because he isn't a great tackler. He's not a very physical cornerback.

[MackTruck]

Originally Posted by Alo

Both Schaefering and Derreck Robinson impressed in the pre-season games. Mosley isn't good enough to justify getting rid of those two guys.

Incorrect. Mosley is plenty good enough to justify getting rid of both those journeymen. But his ankle injury is severe and most likely, his career playing days are over in having any impact.

[nmills]

Originally Posted by Thaak

I don't disagree generally, but B-Mac has two main problems:

1) This is also a strength. He takes risks in coverage. As often as his trying to jump routes helps him with pass defenses and interceptions, he also gets burnt on them. When the risks start to outweigh the strengths, as is the case with B-Mac last year, then he becomes more a liability than a help. This "strength" also helps him look good in preseason, because there isn't much in the way of film study and game planning around particular player's strengths and weaknesses during this time of the year. But in a real game, it can be, and has been game planned around.

Thats exactly why'd I think he'd do well with a good pass rush. Its alot safer to jump route's when you dont have to worry about WR's making 2nd moves, because the QB doesn't have time to wait on route's to develop

[Thaak]

Originally Posted by nmills

Thats exactly why'd I think he'd do well with a good pass rush. Its alot safer to jump route's when you dont have to worry about WR's making 2nd moves, because the QB doesn't have time to wait on route's to develop

True, but this coupled with his liability against the run will cause him to at best be the nickle back on most teams.

[Sez.EJ]

Cutting Bmac seems to leave us thin at DB in my opinion.. but if the young guys are outplaying him.. so be it.. that's the nature of the game..He'll be working very soon. I liked him and still thought he had upside and room to get better... Oh..well. I hope it does not bite us later.

[Dan in Florida]

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Dan in Florida

I bet Bmac is one of those names. It appears it may have leaked out but I bet Bmac is one of the names is on the list. It wasn't "officially " reported on thier web site

[Tobalaz]

Man, I've always loved Bmac.
All the time we were running a vanilla rubber band type defense under Romeo, I kept saying to myself "Man, that's the kind of guy I want here, aggressive, willing to make a play even at the cost of giving up one."
Best of luck wherever you may land.

[Alo]

Originally Posted by TheOBR

Waived: Asante, Chancellor, Fanaika, Geathers, Ivey, Jennings, McDonald, S. Miller, Murray, Ratliff, Sanford, D. Smith.

Contracts terminated: Engram, Kooistra, Mosley

Shaun Rogers has been activated from the PUP list.

Asante and Geathers, of course, are strong practice squad candidates if they get past waivers. Carlton Mitchell makes the roster.

Special teams players make the team: Costanzo, Ventrone, Sorensen all on the 53-man roster. College athletes with pro dreams: take note.

via here.

[RPrepublic]

Cleveland Browns activate Shaun Rogers, cut CB Brandon McDonald and QB Brett Ratliff and 13 others | cleveland.com

Im surprised they let Asante go with our safety depth but prolly a practice squad guy.