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Thoughts after the most important game of pre-season.

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Suh is a liquid that is really quite resistant to flowing downhill and is more likely to be sticky than not. He has an EXTREMELY high surface tension.
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Suh is going to get a hefty fine for his grabbing Jake by the facemask (after a completion BTW) then trying to take his head off as he manhandled him to the ground.
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Thanks for the visual Alo!
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Ok, this is where you tell your offensive lineman to take out this fuckers knees with a devastating chop block. (edit) This douchebag could of made Jake a paraplegic. I can't wait till we play these guys again so someone can blindside this cocksucker.

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Wow. Didn't take long for Detroit to rub off on Ndamukong.
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Great stuff from both of you guys... and I was actually watching the ILBs more for some reason. I thought Bowens was HORRIBLE and looked like a cut, but it probably won't happen. I know what A's talking about with Gocong -- he was out of position playing forward on at least a few big runs.

It's his strength -- explosion and power -- but he has to learn the position. Totally agree.

I noticed that Benard almost immediately got a hit on the QB when he went in, but also got suckered on a run, playing like he was blitzing the passer with no regard for the edge.

My other concern: Fujita was always outside, right? I though he was moving inside. He is so NOT a pass rusher, although I know he can cover.
Fujita came from a 4-3 so if he was an LBer in it - there was only 1 thing to do on passes - get to the zone/deeper flats. Very little rushing the QB.

I see this ALL the time so I just want to clarify something - LBers do not COVER guys. They get to their zone depth and they close on passes coming to whoever comes into that zone. They don't follow a RB through their zone to the other side of the field or it sets the D up for future catastrophies. Instead, they defend areas of the field just like a zone defense does on the basketball court.

This is why I always say an INSTINCTIVE LBer like a Teddy Bruschi was sooo good in spite of limited speed. His instincts often got him to a zone before alot of faster guys the offense wanted to throw to. End result? Who often picked off passes in BIG playoff games? Teddy Bruschi. If you play long enough to get the feel he developed - he didn't have to be faster than any other LBer on his team because his instincts could get him places quicker than any else on the LBer corps.

Where am I going with this? The difference between what we need at LBer and just another LBer auditioning is NOT top end foot speed. It's diagnosis via formations and tendencies - and getting to a zone depth on time vrs 1-2 steps late. It's diagnosis again via formation/film study/situational tendency and making the play at or behind the line of scrimmage vrs waiting for a 300 pound guard to fight off so you have to be top end fast and nail the guy in pursuit down field instead of patrolling the line of scrimmage. Ray Lewis waits for noone and the film junkie knows every single play from formation and down and distance. It's why he's numero uno even though we all hate his ass.

The ONE thing I'd like to see in D'Qwell is for him to trust his 1st step more. He's got EVERYTHING you want in a backer from work ethic to hustle to top end footspeed. Above all, leadership on and off the field. I LIKE but I had turbo-high expectations for him on draft day so I'm always willing to critic what I feel he needs to improve upon. When he sat out and someone asked him now that he had time to reflect on things from the sidelines - he was the one that said I'd like to be more instinctive. I think that was very honest. If you're gonna ask me for a source on that - I apologize because I heard it said from the person on tv talking about it. I think it was in one of our remaining games without him so all I can do is ask you to trust my honesty with that statement. I'm pretty confident I'm not the only one that heard that though. FWIW, I think this is going to be the year he puts it all together after getting that chance to observe from the outside looking in.

YES, he makes a ton of tackles BUT we need more on that line of scrimmage. If he's backer a few yards off the ball fighting off a 300 pounder - I'm not blaming Rogers or Rubin for a 300 pounder getting the 1st 2-3 steps of position on him. I'm blaming a bad 1st step of diagnosis on the ILB. I used to play OG and those LBers that waited for me for contact at that depth opened up our running lanes better than I did as the blocker. And folks, they DO look for this kind of thing on film. We always knew ahead of time if an opponent was giving us the keys to the kingdom inside. Those that came up to meet me at the line of scrimmage made me EARN our running lane; and temporarily plugged a lane (so they didn't necessarily NEED to make the tackle as the back would bounce off into others within their gap integrities). It's how it works without complications.

Who here was stunned to learn ILB Brandon Spikes could only run a 5 flat 40? Do you know why that stunned you? You've never seen him PLAY slow because he's got killer good diagnosis and 1st step instinct working simultaneously. End result? He looks quick as Hell on the football field. Understanding this, the SAME coach that saw Teddy Bruschi earning a reputation off his instincts drafted Spikes as early as Round TWO. Was he looking for the fastest guy on the planet or someone with the mind to get places first? I think all the GREAT LBers over time need to be football literate right at the formation they see in front of them. If these guys can read and comprehend that - it's gonna make all the difference in WHERE they are making tackles. If you don't draft or bring in this kind of LBer - you're gonna be auditioning newcomers forever. We've seen it. It's why we miss guys like Clay Matthews, Mike Johnson, and Pepper Johnson. Pepper wasn't fast but he got there first an awful lot. There's another LBer BB had who wasn't fast with a stopwatch but literate enough to get to the right spot before the opponent.
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I was surprised that none of the lineman got in Suh's face for the dirty play on Jake.

Watching that replay gives you a good idea of how an animal in the jungle rips anothers head off with no sharp instruments yet invented.

Glad to see they've got Jake's back.
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Yes, i wanted to draft Suh. I just never saw that in his highlight reels.
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Who here was stunned to learn ILB Brandon Spikes could only run a 5 flat 40? Do you know why that stunned you? You've never seen him PLAY slow because he's got killer good diagnosis and 1st step instinct working simultaneously. End result? He looks quick as Hell on the football field. Understanding this, the SAME coach that saw Teddy Bruschi earning a reputation off his instincts drafted Spikes as early as Round TWO.

Good stuff Tom. The same Brandon Spikes has been outperforming all the other rookie ILB's taken in the draft. I was a bit surprised he ran a 5.0 40 but more surprised he was dropping in the draft. The kid has GREAT instincts and aggressiveness, a killer combination. I wanted him and I was actually kind of glad at the time the rest of the NFL dropped him down over a 40 time, I figured that would be a HUGE steal in the draft. Apparently so did the Pats scouting department. He's going to be a good one.
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I have to disagree with you on it being a great ploy. If I was now game planning againt the Browns, I'd be happy to allow them to go to that Wallace/pistol formation after driving into the redzone. All it did was mess up the offensive rythem and waste a redzone TD opportunity. If CLE wants to settle for 3 instead of 7, the only wondering from the other side would be why would you waste a redzone opportunity.

I actually got the impression they sent Wallace in with that package before they knew for sure they had the first down. So the pistol formation was going to be used to get the first down. and once they had them in there, they ran it anyway.
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I actually got the impression they sent Wallace in with that package before they knew for sure they had the first down. So the pistol formation was going to be used to get the first down. and once they had them in there, they ran it anyway.
That's even more scary if that was the case. How do you not check that you have the first down before you go sending in any package? Means someone isn't paying attention. Assuming that was the case, why keep Wallace in for second down and have him passing. He's coming off the bench cold.
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That's even more scary if that was the case. How do you not check that you have the first down before you go sending in any package? Means someone isn't paying attention. Assuming that was the case, why keep Wallace in for second down and have him passing. He's coming off the bench cold.

Because it's preseason and they may have wanted to see that package anyway.
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Because it's preseason and they may have wanted to see that package anyway.
I hope you are right. Seemed like a very odd time to want to see that package and throw a wrench into a machine that was humming along nicely.
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