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A scenario brought up on another board:

With Jets nose tackle Kris Jenkins suffering an ACL tear for the second straight season, the team could be interested in acquiring Shaun Rogers. The Browns could trade him for a draft pick or two, which then could be used to acquire Vincent Jackson -- either straight up or using the Rogers picks to cushion the cost of giving up a 2nd for VJax.

Obviously, giving up Rogers would be a sizable loss to our defense, but Rubin's emergence makes it at least palatable. And with our current WR corps, our offense could be awfully bad; bringing in Jackson would stretch defenses more and relieve some of the pressure on MoMass to be a legit #1.

It's an interesting idea. I doubt it will happen, but I hope the front office is thinking about it.

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I hope they aren't. Rogers is irreplacable.
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Clock's ticking on Rogers. We're not going to be good by the time we can use him for great purposes.

I'd be in favor of getting value for him. Jackson...uh. I don't enough about it.
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I hope they aren't. Rogers is irreplacable.
Yet Tuba Rubin's more than adequately replaced him at NT.

I understand that Rogers is an amazing talent and would be a significant loss, but it's unfair to have Mangini fail because his young OC and inconsistent QB don't have any weapons.
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I've always got the feeling that Vincent Jackson is overrated. I don't follow the Chargers closely enough to validate that so any of you can feel free to call me on it or back me up, anyway...

I don't know about the Trade. Rubin's good enough that we feel confident in his ability as a backup, to step in and make a few starts here and there when needed. Is he good enough to anchor the defensive line for a whole season? I don't know that either...

What I do know is this. I think our D-Line lacks depth considerably even in comparison to our thin WR-corps. We may not have that certifiable "#1" guy but we do have some decent depth at that position if MoMass or someone else were to get hurt.

If we traded Rogers... and Rubin got hurt... I don't even want to think about it.

If we're coming up to week six (that's the deadline, right?) , and we still feel concerned about our WR depth... maybe make a deal there but I don't like trading Rogers for picks and nothing in return, then levying some or all of those picks for Vincent Jackson.

Maybe a 3-team trade to get what we want?
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Clock's ticking on Rogers. We're not going to be good by the time we can use him for great purposes.

I'd be in favor of getting value for him. Jackson...uh. I don't enough about it.
The mark of a great team is being able to cut ties with a guy, either trade or letting him hit the fa market, before his performance takes a total dive.
It would be nice to get something for Rogers and I believe we're still too far away from being contenders that he's going to be able to help us by the time we are, so getting something for him while we have a chance would be along the lines of us getting something for Winslow and Edwards before they could walk.
It would be tough to swallow but would help in the long run.

I'm right there with you on Jackson. I'm not sold on him and wouldn't be thrilled at trading away high picks for him.
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Just heard the Jets are willing to give us back BE for Rogers!
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We aren't using him to his strengths anyway. Never have.
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i, for one, think rogers is past his prime. I wouldn't be sad to see him go. Now, getting Vincent Jackson WOULD be awesome, but I doubt it'd happen.
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young OC and inconsistent QB don't have any weapons.
We have weapons, Daboll just doesn't know how to use them (just like the doesn't know how to call a run play that isn't up the gut).

Carlton Mitchell will one day be a very Brandon Marshall type receiver if he gets the opportunities, and Chansi Stuckey needs to be utilized more often.
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I've always got the feeling that Vincent Jackson is overrated. I don't follow the Chargers closely enough to validate that so any of you can feel free to call me on it or back me up, anyway...

I don't know about the Trade. Rubin's good enough that we feel confident in his ability as a backup, to step in and make a few starts here and there when needed. Is he good enough to anchor the defensive line for a whole season? I don't know that either...

What I do know is this. I think our D-Line lacks depth considerably even in comparison to our thin WR-corps. We may not have that certifiable "#1" guy but we do have some decent depth at that position if MoMass or someone else were to get hurt.

If we traded Rogers... and Rubin got hurt... I don't even want to think about it.

If we're coming up to week six (that's the deadline, right?) , and we still feel concerned about our WR depth... maybe make a deal there but I don't like trading Rogers for picks and nothing in return, then levying some or all of those picks for Vincent Jackson.

Maybe a 3-team trade to get what we want?
Jackson is a very good receiver but not even #1 on his own team (Gates).

SD fans are content going the whole season without him. In my opinion he's a diva who would never be happy in a city like Cleveland.
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Remember that Jackson has Phil Rivers throwing to him. We have Jake Delhomme, who, coincidentally, had Steve Smith to throw to at one time.

I don't think Jake's receivers are going to make or break him. I think Jake will.
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