Mangini press conf. : "Robo is not getting open", and other things

DeadWombat · #1 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

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On Brian Robiskie: is he getting open or not? I listened to the press conference on monday and one reporter asked Mangini about Robo.

I typed this out, as a direct quote from the press conference.

Quote:

Reporter: Is Brian Robiskie not getting open, or is the offensive game plan not geared towards getting the ball?

Eric Mangini: You know, he had a couple chances yesterday and I wanted him to come up with those catches when he's got those chances [pauses] Um... You know, he needs to continue to work on getting open. He needs to continue to improve in there. And I expect him to do that. [pauses] And that's fairly where it's at.

Other tidbits from the press conference:

On Colt McCoy and Eric Wright's injuries: "We'll see on Wednesday" Mangini said, concerning updates on the severity of the injuries. Watson should be OK. Cribbs "is making progress", as is Mike Adams. "It doesn't look great for Blake", said Mangini. Costanzo had a groin injury in the 2nd half.

Mangini said that the loss of Billy Yates was not why the O-line performed so poorly. He directed blame on the entire line as well as the Tight Ends for their blocking.

Jake Delhomme is at 100% and ready to play if Colt cannot.

Mangini blamed the loss on the defense for giving up 2 touchdowns on the last two Jaguars possessions of the game, and the offense for poor execution on the running game and giving up 6 sacks. He said he truly believed that he could run the ball against them but the offense just never produced.

My opinion on that last one is that you can't fault the O-line for a poor running game or sacks when the Jags stack the box like they did.

There's more to the press conference but I think I picked out most of the interesting stuff. Go watch it if you want.

DirtyDawg · #2 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

This quote on Robiskie is just more evidence than Brian Daboll is mostly NOT at fault for the lack of production on offense.

Robiskie is slower than Molasses, defenses are stacking the box because we have no good wide receivers, we have an (albeit impressive thus far) rookie quarterback, and add this latest one, injuries to the offensive line have contributed to an underperforming o line. Not to mention the lack of a game-breaker RB that allows defenses to stack even more. Missing Cribbs hasn't helped recently.

Daboll is not without his faults here and there, but the biggest problem without a doubt is lack of personnel. Daboll's actually done a pretty good job keeping the offense in managable situations.

Vegasdogg · #3 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

Brian Robiskie is the reason the offense has low production? That's what we're going with? We can't get Mitchell coached up to play there? Stuckey can't play the 2?

1 WR is not getting Daboll off the hook. He (Daboll) is not the sole reason we're struggling at times but the "woe is me, he has little to work with" position is wearing thin with me.

But that's me. I'm hard on him. We don't have 5-6 bread and butter pass plays and we should.

golfer704u · #4 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

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Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

Brian Robiskie is the reason the offense has low production? That's what we're going with? We can't get Mitchell coached up to play there? Stuckey can't play the 2?

1 WR is not getting Daboll off the hook. He (Daboll) is not the sole reason we're struggling at times but the "woe is me, he has little to work with" position is wearing thin with me.

But that's me. I'm hard on him. We don't have 5-6 bread and butter pass plays and we should.

Oh come on just stop it already.

You have been given MANY MANY reasons why Dabol is not the sole problem with our offense, people have said he still needs to learn. All we are saying is stop the "WE MUST FIRE HIM NOW" crap.

Vegasdogg · #5 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

Yeah I'm a bit anti-Daboll this week.

I can't wrap my head around the lack of adjustment to pressure.

I need a hug.

Sez.EJ · #6 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

Robo is not getting open: REALLY?...

all that preseason praise.. just goes to show what I said all offeason..you cannot grade out a player or predict production or lack of production based upon rookie camps, mini camps, and training camps.... We all heard how Haden was sucking, Ward could not play, McCoy sucked and was a wasted pick etc. etc. and how good Robo was going to be..
I am glad the person behind all of these predictions is no longer here.. I don't want to mention any names..but his initials are.. S.H.E.P. ha ha ha .

(please don't close the thread just because I typed that mans name again.... like last time... or did I miss some law against that)

DirtyDawg · #7 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

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Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

Brian Robiskie is the reason the offense has low production? That's what we're going with? We can't get Mitchell coached up to play there? Stuckey can't play the 2?

1 WR is not getting Daboll off the hook. He (Daboll) is not the sole reason we're struggling at times but the "woe is me, he has little to work with" position is wearing thin with me.

Maybe WHO plays is not up to Daboll. Maybe if it was up to him, Robiskie WOULD be on the bench. We don't know.

I just have such a problem with the Daboll bashing because of ALL the problem's he's dealing with, and a 2nd WR with the quickness of Zydrunas Ilgauskus is just ONE of those problems.

And here's why I have a problem with it: What would you do differently?

We've used the wildcat when Cribbs was available and healthy - it was hardly effective.

We've run inside, outside, draws, tosses, counters, and everything else.

We've passed short to Stuckey, deep to MoMass and Moore, tried different things with Cribbs, used the middle with Watson, and used Hillis in the flats. Passing down the field hasn't been successful partly because of the QB and partly because of the bad WR play.

We've used a RB pass (Hillis to McCoy), a nutty trick run by Stuckey out of the wildcat, we even put Hillis at QB and had him hand it off once.

We've tried a diverse amount of things.

The bottom line is that we have a young, immature, amateur group of players on offense who aren't exactly loaded with natural talent in the first place.

It really, really blows to accept that but it is what it is.

Sez.EJ · #8 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

Time for Carlton Mitchell to get a chance? He can't do worse than Robo right now.. at least a series or two.. Let him get some reps in a real game.. we have what to lose?

Dan in Florida · #9 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

I figured out why Mangini thinks Robiskie is good...

...he sees him getting GREAT separation in practice ...

...against Eric Wright

Legacy Fan · #10 (**permalink**) 11-23-2010

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Originally Posted by DirtyDawg

Maybe WHO plays is not up to Daboll. Maybe if it was up to him, Robiskie WOULD be on the bench. We don't know.

I just have such a problem with the Daboll bashing because of ALL the problem's he's dealing with, and a 2nd WR with the quickness of Zydrunas Ilgauskus is just ONE of those problems.

And here's why I have a problem with it: What would you do differently?

We've used the wildcat when Cribbs was available and healthy - it was hardly effective.

We've run inside, outside, draws, tosses, counters, and everything else.

We've passed short to Stuckey, deep to MoMass and Moore, tried different things with Cribbs, used the middle with Watson, and used Hillis in the flats. Passing down the field hasn't been successful partly because of the QB and partly because of the bad WR play.

We've used a RB pass (Hillis to McCoy), a nutty trick run by Stuckey out of the wildcat, we even put Hillis at QB and had him hand it off once.

We've tried a diverse amount of things.

The bottom line is that we have a young, immature, amateur group of players on offense who aren't exactly loaded with natural talent in the first place.

It really, really blows to accept that but it is what it is.

Evan Moore had 3 catches. 3.

Let me rephrase: the only guy on our team that could make us forget about kellen winslow was thrown at thrice.

We have talent. We dont use it. That's on the coaches
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DeadWombat · #11 (**permalink**) 11-24-2010

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Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

Evan Moore had 3 catches. 3.

Let me rephrase: the only guy on our team that could make us forget about kellen winslow was thrown at thrice.

We have talent. We dont use it. That's on the coaches
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Even McCoy said in his interview that Moore needs to get more playing time.