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That whole piece by Biletnikoff is so frustrating it's beyond words to describe.

That's the type of mentality that destroys perspective.

Look at Mangini's body of work for the love of God
-- He cleaned up the locker room, which took him at least half of last season
-- He added scrap heap guys who have been contributors here (Roth, Moore, Benard, Schaefring)
-- He had enough respect from who was left in 2009 for the team to play well in the last five weeks (don't forget the SD game)
-- He continued to add team-first guys in this past offseason (Brown, Fujita, Hillis)
-- He was able to adapt seamlessly with the Holmgren/Heckert duo and they had an excellent first draft together.
-- In year two, he has gone up against seven division leaders (as of Week 11). In those games, the Browns had a fourth quarter lead in all but two of those games (Pit, Atl), and won two handily (NO, NE). Did we compete against any division leaders last year? Exactly.
-- In year one, he preached toughness. In year two, it's being practiced. Exhibit A: Peyton Hillis; Exhibit B: TJ Ward; Exhibit C: Matt Roth

If you think this team isn't moving forward THE RIGHT WAY you need to pay more attention. I know people say that you can turn things around in the NFL in one year. That's true, but if they don't do it right then they are one-year wonders (a la the Browns in 2007). The teams with staying power are the ones who do it the right way. This is the right way: build through the draft, add the right players (talent/smarts/toughness/leadership), and consistency in your approach week after week, and finally you need a franchise QB.

The Browns might have the QB, all they need is to continue to infuse the roster with more talent in the draft and free agency.
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If you think this team isn't moving forward THE RIGHT WAY you need to pay more attention. I know people say that you can turn things around in the NFL in one year. That's true, but if they don't do it right then they are one-year wonders (a la the Browns in 2007). The teams with staying power are the ones who do it the right way. This is the right way: build through the draft, add the right players (talent/smarts/toughness/leadership), and consistency in your approach week after week, and finally you need a franchise QB. The Browns might have the QB, all they need is to continue to infuse the roster with more talent in the draft and free agency.
EXACTLY!! When i here it quoted that there are teams that turn it around in one year like the Dolphins 1-15 to 11-5 i don't think people realize that that is one year. They were pretenders to the crown so to speak. That year the unveiled the wildcat and had a pretty soft schedule. So much of it comes down to scheduling. 2007 Browns is the perfect example. I want sustainable growth through the draft and grab some depth in FA with maybe one piece of the puzzle if they are young. To truly build a winner takes time and as fans it takes patience and i would rather we do it right and take a few years than try and do it all at once through FA and crash and burn.
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in response to the original post..mangini era is over?... no...it isn't.
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Brian Daboll better beg Mike Holmgren to let him rent the room over the garage this offseason. He (Dbs) obviously has the plays (and thus the playbook), he just needs to learn how to use it over the course of a game (or two games back-to-back).
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The “U” is putting “full-court press” on Gruden
Posted by Mike Florio on December 1, 2010, 6:44 AM EST

Amid multiple reports regarding a potential Montague-and-Capulet arrangement between a guy whose dad worked at Notre Dame and its mortal enemies from Miami (at least when they used to play each other), we’re told that the “U” is indeed putting a “full-court press” on former Raiders and Bucs coach Jon Gruden.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, the push is occurring at many levels, including recruiting efforts from former Hurricanes players.

That said, the thinking remains that, while he enjoys being courted, Gruden isn’t inclined to coach at the college level. Moreover, Gruden’s decision to listen to Miami could be the impetus for any NFL team that may be eyeballing Gruden for 2011 to begin some back-channel communications aimed at making him aware that he could be the next head coach of, say, the 49ers or the Browns or maybe even the Broncos, where he’d get to turn Tim Tebow into an NFL quarterback.

In other words, Gruden could indeed be using the “U” to effect his broader plan of getting back into the NFL.


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Ugh pass on Gruden, I'm just not sold on him truly. I don't really want to go there. I will worry about new coaches once Mangini's officially got the hook.
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Ugh pass on Gruden, I'm just not sold on him truly. I don't really want to go there. I will worry about new coaches once Mangini's officially got the hook.

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