SI article on Mangini and Holmgren

[sofakingwhat]

Browns building a winner, moving closer to .500 - NFL - SI.com

BEREA, Ohio (AP) -Coach Eric Mangini believes his boss is pleased with the progress the Cleveland Browns are making.
Team president Mike Holmgren told him as much on the flight home from Miami.
"It's been positive,'' Mangini said Monday of the feedback he's received from Holmgren, approaching his one-year anniversary in Cleveland. "We weren't high-fiving and belly-bopping on the plane or anything, but it was a much better plane ride than some I've taken.''
For the moment, the turbulence has eased in Cleveland. The bumps are smoother.
Slowly, steadily, Mangini has the Browns (5-7) climbing toward .500 and legitimacy.
On Sunday, they got their second straight last-second victory, 13-10 over the Dolphins on Phil Dawson's 23-yard field goal as time expired - a kick set up by safety Mike Adams' interception and return with one minute left. Last week, the Browns edged Carolina 24-23 when Panthers kicker John Kasay caromed a ball off the left stanchion on the game's final play.
Thirty years ago with MVP Brian Sipe at quarterback, the Browns were nicknamed the "Kardiac Kids'' for their knack of playing - and winning - close games. This group of Browns sends pulses racing, too.
After starting 1-5 in games decided by seven points or less, the Browns have won two straight nail-biters.
"It's about time for us to win some games like that,'' Adams said. "Two years ago, or even last year, you can remember us losing a game like that. Fortunately, this year, it's turning our way. So a win is a win.''
There's no such thing as an ugly win to an NFL coach. Mangini says each one looks like Miss America.
"They're all beautiful,'' he said, "special in their own way.''
Mangini has been preaching the one-game-at-a-time mantra to his players, some of the same ones who tuned out his messages last season when they started 1-11. Getting the Browns to believe has taken time. Mangini feels his system has finally taken root.
He sees it in them matching their win total from last season with four games left. He sees it in their intensity at practice and a selfless attitude among rookies and veterans.
"It's all that same single-mindedness,'' he said. "And when you have that, you can make strides.''
Holmgren wants significant ones.
Last month, when the Browns were 2-5 at their bye, Holmgren promised he would wait until after the season to evaluate Mangini and decide whether to bring him back. At the time, Holmgren was excited about Cleveland's competitiveness, but equally disappointed by the team's inability to win tight games.
Mangini knows this recent stretch of success will only help his security if it continues.
"Really what I want to do is move the team forward,'' he said. "I want them to be better this next week than we were the last week, and the same thing through the remainder of the season. All the other stuff will take care of itself. What I want to do is make sure I do the best job with these guys and the coaches do the best job and collectively we do the best job to improve.
"I like the way, as a group, the coaches and players have worked and fight and I'm proud of that. Now I want to see us getting rewarded with wins.''
If not for a four-game winning streak to end last season, Mangini might not be around. Holmgren only retained him because, as a former coach, he understood the difficulty of implementing a system in just one year.
Mangini asked for patience. Holmgren granted it.
Mangini said he doesn't spend a minute worrying about his future. If he did, Cleveland's players would rebel by not listening or playing up to their potential. Consistency is crucial.
"I would be a hypocrite,'' he said. "I'm asking all these other guys to look at one game at a time and you can't know what's going to happen four weeks from now. You can't control it. What you can control is what's happening today and what we do this week. To me, that's a big component of being successful.''
Statistically, the Browns have improved in almost every category in their second season under Mangini. One of the most striking changes is that through 12 games last season, they were outscored 309-145. This season, it's 239-229.
Beyond that, they've overcome ankle injuries to three quarterbacks and have been competitive despite one of the NFL's toughest schedules.
Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas said Mangini's methods, which angered some players a year ago, are much easier to accept when they're backed by wins.
"When you're sitting at 1-11,'' Thomas said. "It's hard to believe anything you're doing. There are so many questions, everybody is wondering what the problem is, what's going on. This year, we feel we're a much better team than that. We're keeping every game close.
"Guys believe in themselves. They believe in the system a lot more than last year. You are what your record says you are in the NFL.''
And for the Browns, it says they're building.


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[Danamal]

Statistically, the Browns have improved in almost every category in their second season under Mangini. One of the most striking changes is that through 12 games last season, they were outscored 309-145. This season, it's 239-229.





That just leaped off the page for me,
10 total points separate our seven losses!
Can you imagine if we had a true healthy QB some wideouts and a healthy Hardesty to compliment Hillis?
There is no way you look at that and say fire the coach,I just don't get it,unless it has just become habit and people are used to two turnovers of gm's and HC's.
Let's keep moving forward and stop screaming for a rebuild yet again.

[golfer704u]

Well technically it's not 10 points over 7 losses because you have to factor in how much we killed the patriots by too. But yeah that is a striking stat.

[King of Kings]

We're on the cusp of entering that next tier of teams, so Mangoose and Holmer are like peas and carrots right now I imagine.

[Danamal]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

Well technically it's not 10 points over 7 losses because you have to factor in how much we killed the patriots by too. But yeah that is a striking stat.

Technical or not your right but it is an amazing stat nonetheless and I can't believe anyone calling for another rebuild amidst what were seeing happen before our very own eyes.
We have a football team people!

[Enigmatic Evil]

It's amazing the difference a year makes. Last year Sports Illustrated slammed Mangini, painting a chocolate covered caricature to set the tone for the article while comparing his coaching tactics to Nazism and talking about how he was failing to grab his team. Now they're talking about how much the Browns have turned around and have written a very un-biased piece which shows just how far the Browns have come. I've been admiring our PF/PA differential all season and I was glad to see it get some attention. I think one of the reasons we've been keeping it close all year is because our D has been playing some solid football. Colt's a glimmer of hope behind center and I think Hillis has shown that he's a force to be reckoned with so yes, we're a team on the up and up. Does Mangini deserve that credit? He definitely deserves some.

[Legendary]

we are doing well and need finetuning to make us even better. change in defense to have a pass rusher to sack quarterbacks easier and receivers to get more passes and make us stronger in aerial assault.