Half time adjustments - Fact or Fiction???

[hiwaygal]

So chat got interesting during halftime...the discussion turned to changes/adjustments made.

Gabe found some articles saying they were myth. Masters found some articles that say they're fact.

Personally, I think they are fact. In-game adjustments CAN make the difference in a game. They don't have to be significant. It could be just an alert to the O coordinator that a part of the line is soft. Or it could be an alert to the D that someone keeps getting open and sooner or later they might catch us.

Now, that doesn't mean they're going to completely throw out their game planning, but film is history. What the folks in the booth can see during the game is NOW.

What if the other team is playing someone who has little to no film on them? Isn't it possible that the coaches/coordinators might make an adjustment to contain that player if he's making an impact? I think it happens.

[DaBrowns41]

Well... when you're in Cleveland, there's no such thing as an adjustment. Whether it's mid-season, mid-game, or mid-year. There's just no adjusting when your QB does his best Charlie Frye impression throwing twice over 5 yards, and your offensive coordinator fails to stick to the run (which works by the way).

[PlaygroundLegend]

Eric Mangini is a control freak, period

Holmgren humbled him a little, but Mangini's still Mangini

He is going to do what he set out to do no matter how badly were getting shut down, he wants it his way, and doesnt care for adjustments, because those adjustments aren't what he originally planned

If you need to make serious adjustments, thats means you made a few mistakes, Mangini doesnt admit to mistakes, so he doesnt make adjustments

[NDneighbor]

Originally Posted by hiwaygal

So chat got interesting during halftime...

Congratulations. You did beat everyone to it.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by hiwaygal

So chat got interesting during halftime...the discussion turned to changes/adjustments made.

Gabe found some articles saying they were myth. Masters found some articles that say they're fact.

Personally, I think they are fact. In-game adjustments CAN make the difference in a game. They don't have to be significant. It could be just an alert to the O coordinator that a part of the line is soft. Or it could be an alert to the D that someone keeps getting open and sooner or later they might catch us.

Now, that doesn't mean they're going to completely throw out their game planning, but film is history. What the folks in the booth can see during the game is NOW.

What if the other team is playing someone who has little to no film on them? Isn't it possible that the coaches/coordinators might make an adjustment to contain that player if he's making an impact? I think it happens.

I don't think this day had as much to do with playcalling as it did having the RIGHT QB in the game. Sorry. Delhomme looked like a high school QB pretending to be a professional. He was terrible. The fumble in the pocket was completely avoidable.

It was actually painful to watch the coaching staff and surroundign team fall victim to the return of Todd Philcox at starting QB in such a winable game.

2 weeks ago when Jake was doing everything he could to give away the Carolina Game the team won inspite of him. I predicted we'd lose to Miami by 3 TDs if he started vrs their defense. Last week, he inexplicably had a period where he was 20 of 27 and I had hoped the confidence and poise returned for good. No such luck.

I can't watch this team humiliate itself 1 more time with another doofus QB. I need to hear why Wallace wasn't even an alternative more than I care about what meaningless adjustments they were going to make when Buffalo was told on drive #1 "the Cleveland Browns do not believe in their QB today." We told them all we were capable of and they adjusted with 11 defenders playing run. Unfortunately, it became their easiest game of 2010 and will remain that.

You better believe I'm disappointed. I think we as fans deserve an answer as to why they kept a 60 minute panic attack behind Center. There wasn't passing play in the playbook that was capable of working when Jake is frantic like that. Sorry - gotta call it like I saw it. Yuck! If people want to blast the OC, Head Coach or QB Coach - they should.

How many doofuses are we gonna get sentenced to in a 20 year period here? That might have been the last straw for all you folks that wanted Daboll gone long ago. If he didn't know any better than to leave a pitcher in the game that didn't have his stuff today - then I've completely overrated his capability as an OC.
- Tom F.

[hiwaygal]

LOL...maybe we should have waited awhile to post this! I didn't intend for it to be solely related to today's game!

We looked like last year's team today. It was bad. Jake looked like shit, the Bills D knew they only needed to key in on Hillis and we were goners. Even our D seemed lackluster today, but hell, that could have been because the O looked so pathetic.

Tom, I don't think we need to wait much longer for a 'non-doofus'...Colt is waiting in the wings and I know he has more confidence and will manage the ball and the game better.

The coaches need to find a happy medium between the creativity and the regular play calling. What are they saving the trick plays for? It's when we become predictable that we lose.

A good adjustment would have been to see what other plays we could run to make the Bills D WONDER who was getting the ball and how. But, with Jake in there and our receivers having issues I guess it was just too much of a risk? Who knows?

[nickers]

If Holmgren was coaching this team I bet Seneca wouldve started

[Masters]

Two weeks ago CLE didn't so much win against CAR as CAR lost (agree Delhomme tried his best to give it away). They missed 3 FGs, including a game winner when the team let Clausen march them right down the field in the two minute drill.

Last week Jake tried to give the game away again with a shoulda been pick six.

This week gave it away (though Hillis tried to give it away as well).

In all 3 cases, who is deciding Jake gives the team the best chance to win?

[NDneighbor]

Some of the links posted in chat that were relevant to this discussion (I apologise. They are now out of context):


Debunking the NFL's myths: An elite run game is critical, right? - USATODAY.com

Bill Belichick, HC, New England Patriots

Bill Belichick, HC, New England Patriots

Bill Belichick, CEO - The Boston Globe

Payton's second-half adjustments help Saints capture title

CNN/SI - Inside the NFL

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fea...nfl0928/i.html

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/0...-capture-title

CNN/SI - Inside the NFL

NFL.com news: Payton's second-half adjustments help Saints capture title

Amazon.com: Phil Simms on Passing: Fundamentals of Throwing the Football (9780688161088): Phil Simms: Books

Amazon.com: Phil Simms on Passing: Fundamentals of Throwing the Football (9780688161088): Phil Simms: Books

[PlaygroundLegend]

lol, love that last add in there, priceless

Phil sims on passing

that post made me literally crack up

[Jax Dawg]

Half time adjustments? I've heard of this working for some teams somewhere before but nobody really does that anymore do they?

[Sez.EJ]

Run Defense anyone??? That is what lost the game.. the bills had the ball nearly a whole quarter longer than we did. time of posession for the bills was over 36 minutes.. we had is for just over 23 minutes. .

Mangini got blocked on every play and then nearly missed every tackle ..except the ones he made 8 yards downfield.. Mangini's pass blocking was terrible too..he was getting pushed around like a rag doll.