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Scott Fujita's and Eric Wright's seasons were put to an end as the Browns placed both on season ending Injured Reserve.

Browns officially shut down Fujita, Wright

Posted by Mike Florio on December 21, 2010, 6:12 PM EST
The Browns, whose season is as a practical matter over, have officially ended the season for two members of the team.
It was announced today that linebacker Scott Fujita and cornerback Eric Wright have officially been placed on injured reserve.
Fujita had missed five straight games after starting the first nine of his first season with the Browns.
The Browns filled the roster spots by promoting nose tackle Travis Ivey from the practice squad and signing linebacker Steve Octavian.
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God how many players do we have on the IR like 10? This is just another classic example of how ripped to shreds our roster are while half the fan base doesn't blink for a second to blame the team's play on the Coaches rather than the logical explanation...

I was really hoping we would get one or both of these guys back. We dogged Wright for most of the season but his absence in our secondary is notable because we lack the depth behind Wright on the chart. Ditto for Fujita, though we have reasonable depth in the LB spots, his absence is noteworthy and has affected the overall play of the D. I honestly never would have guessed that Fujita would have the impact on our D that he did.
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I can't find a good total for the year, but this gives us an idea from a few weeks ago. Looks like we're at the top of the league, but so are the Colts, Jags, Packers, Patriots and Giants - all of which are still in the hunt.

2010 NFL Injured Reserve Report: December Update
239 Players Have Been Placed on IR so Far
Tommy Hayfield, Yahoo! Contributor Network
-Dec 5, 2010

There are now several tied for the ignominious lead for most players on the injured reserve list: Green Bay, Indianapolis, and Jacksonville have all placed thirteen players on the list. There are also several teams

who have placed less than a handful of players on the list: Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Minnesota, the Jets, and Oakland have all tied with the fewest players on the list with three. On average NFL teams have put about seven players on the injured reserve list in the 2010 season.

Below you can view the numbers I've compiled which shows the number of injuries each team has had which result in a player being put on the injured reserve list. Since I last compiled a list of each team's total numbers the numbers have gone from 163 players on IR (the injured reserve list) in November (November 12,2010) to 239 players on IR in December (December 3, 2010.)

Here are each teams contribution to the total of 239.

Players Placed on Injured Reserve: December 2010 Season Team Totals
Arizona Cardinals...4

Atlanta Falcons...3

Baltimore Ravens...5

Buffalo Bills...10

Carolina Panthers...11

Chicago Bears...3

Cincinnati Bengals...12

Cleveland Browns...11 (so, now 13?)

Dallas Cowboys...3

Denver Broncos...3

Detroit Lions...10

Green Bay Packers...13

Houston Texans...10

Indianapolis Colts...13

Jacksonville Jaguars...13

Kansas City Chiefs...6

Miami Dolphins...8

Minnesota Vikings...3

New England Patriots...11

New Orleans Saints...8

New York Giants...11

New York Jets...3

Oakland Raiders...3

Philadelphia Eagles...6

Pittsburgh Steelers...5

San Diego Chargers...8

San Francisco 49ers...6

Seattle Seahawks...9

St Louis Rams...10

Tampa Bay Buccaneers...8

Tennessee Titans...8

Washington Redskins...7
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EE, good point about the impact of Fujita - when I heard he was signed last year it barely raised an oh hum on my excitement meter but he turned out to be a very good tackler, good in coverage, and an outstanding leader for the defense. In his absence it seems our defense has dropped off quite a bit.

Without Wright we now have to see more of Adams and Ventrone trying to cover receivers and TE's which is not good when your next two divisional opponents have multiple receivers to attack the defense with.

I don't know the overall stats but 2/5ths of our starters on O-line,1/3 of our starters on D-line,1/2 of the starters (2 out of 4 starting LB's), and 1/2 of our starting CB's now on IR, not to mention a number of back ups and our original starting punter. No wonder this team seems to be underacheiving in our eyes...
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A team rebuilding can't sustain the injury bug nearly as well as a team in continuity which typically has better depth.

Also, how many teams have involuntarily started 3 QB's this year?
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Hey Grey or even started 3 QB's at all?
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A team rebuilding can't sustain the injury bug nearly as well as a team in continuity which typically has better depth.

Also, how many teams have involuntarily started 3 QB's this year?
MY point exactly. When you talk about getting rid of a coach because of his Win/loss record you are only considering half the facts.

You have to look at the body of work and injuries are a big part. Hard to say how good this team could have been without all the injuries or what Mangini would have done with the team but they certainly have to be taken into consideration. Also, not just the IR list but playing with 3 QBs like you said and guys like Coleman and Rogers who have been playing on one leg all year to go along with a right side of the offensive line in flux all season because of injuries. And, I might add the the teams biggest impact players , Cribbs has been shut down most of the year also.
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Everyone agreed that going into this season we would be in the 7 to 9 win category so expectations weren't overly high as long as the team looked improved and played good football and we didn't get blown out of games.
Most of us looked to next year as the pivotal year based on what we can accomplish this offseason.
Instead we are tied for first in most players on IR and lets be honest Cribbs should be added as well and he was responsible for probably one to two wins almost single handily last year.

Keep screaming for a new HC,,Cleveland deserves what it gets if there wish is granted,just hope the new guy can win a Superbowl in one season......
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Detroit started 3 QB's this year and Minnesota and Arizona.... umm alot have started 2... Green Bay, Philly, San Fran, Dallas, Washington...

You can see some of the top teams up there in that post that have just as many injuries as we do, and yet they have way better records, including Jacksonville.

Some of you can make the argument about depth, but isn't that what Mangini prides himself on? The fact that all of his players are interchangeable in different positions and that his teams are well suited for that. You can also say that our lack of depth is Mangini;s fault for HORRID drafting in 2009, and clearing our roster of some potential talents because they didn't "fit". Some coaches come in, and DONT turn the roster over completely and end up doing a better or as good job with the same players, like in pittsburg and baltimore.
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Detroit, Minnesota, and Arizona. Their combined record?

Dallas, San Fran, and Washington. Their combined record?

Philly? Started the wrong guy, upgraded the position, and now a very dangerous team with suspect defense.

Green Bay? Preseason pick for a deep playoff run. Lots of depth.

The rest of your post is primarly weighted on devaluing Mangini's role in the 2009 draft. Why this has to keep coming up after the organization remedied this with Holmgren/Heckert is beyond me. Its been well documented how the instability of the organization heading into the 2009 personnel decisions hurt us. Fix it, such as we did the next year (2010), and you get much better results.

I think its safe to say that you probably helped make the case supporting the impact of injuries/lack of roster depth rather than refute it.
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Detroit started 3 QB's this year and Minnesota and Arizona.... umm alot have started 2... Green Bay, Philly, San Fran, Dallas, Washington...

You can see some of the top teams up there in that post that have just as many injuries as we do, and yet they have way better records, including Jacksonville.

Some of you can make the argument about depth, but isn't that what Mangini prides himself on? The fact that all of his players are interchangeable in different positions and that his teams are well suited for that. You can also say that our lack of depth is Mangini;s fault for HORRID drafting in 2009, and clearing our roster of some potential talents because they didn't "fit". Some coaches come in, and DONT turn the roster over completely and end up doing a better or as good job with the same players, like in pittsburg and baltimore.
It's not necessarily the amount of injuries but it's "WHO". Perfect example is Chicago has been very healthy this year not losing many starters for even a few games. You see waht happens to a superbowl ready team like Minn when they have a few injuries.

I factor in "WHO" was on IR and also how many guys are injured and still trying to play or were lost for maybe 3 or 4 games and not put on IR. I'm talking guys like Cribbs, Rogers, Coleman, Evan Moore, Womack and the QBs. These are injuries and lost games to some of our core players not counting all the guys we lost to IR.

IMO, injuries effect win/loss records more then any other factor in the NFL. You can lose depth and not be as effected as when you lose a core player.
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