Where do we go from here?

[Neo]

All through the course of this football season I have seen steady improvement from the
team until now. This game raises more questions than answers

What do we do in the draft? Who is going to be our Head Coach? Is Peyton Hillis a one year wonder? Will he be able to stay healthy? Will Hardesty be able to contribute next season or is he made of glass? Who are we bringing back in FA? Will we go early for DL or WR? Will we take a RB early? Do we need more help in the secondary?

Whatever happens, we need to hit on our draft picks again this coming draft and we have to shell ouut the $$$$ to get quality free-agents or it is going to be another long season next year. When does the rebuilding stop?

-Joker, Disgruntled Browns fan.

[Crow]

Being in a division with two 12-4 teams sucks.

[Crow]

Mangini is probably fired, losing 4 games to end the season is bad - it's the mirror of what saved his job. This game is also an embarrassment - it is only one game, but how you finish often dictates what people think. I've always felt Mangini had to overachieve to keep his job, and that if he screwed up early he'd get fired so the new administration could hire "their guy."

Our head coach is very, very likely Gruden.

The rebuilding will stop when we have stability in the front office and coach. But you don't want to be stable with just anybody. Mangini did a good job cleaning the roster and patching stuff up from cap hell. He likely is what he feared, the cleaner for the Browns as they go to the next coaching step. Holmgren will probably decide he doesn't want Mangini - but that's just my _guess_.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Crow

Being in a division with two 12-4 teams sucks.

Yea it does but this team is gonna have to find ways to start winning those division games or we will be rebuilding forever. We could of had the two games vs the Ravens and two against Cinci. And you could argue that we could of had the first against Pitts. Our record could lok alot different if we get those games.

[Neo]

Look at it this way, if we can win our division with Baltimore and Pittsburgh playing as good as they do, going to the Superbowl isn't as far off in the distance as you would think.

[hiwaygal]

Originally Posted by Joker

Where do we go from here?

Up.

That's all I got right now.

I'll wait to start really bitching and moaning and complaining 'til I hear who is going to be coach.

[Crow]

I would rather be in that division, yes, so I could prep for the Super Bowl...if I was a mediocre team, or even a borderline-mediocre team. When you have a very strong division (last year the Bengals were even good) it beats down on your team's record and getting out the cellar can be more difficult. Part of our turnover is partially from losing 4 games a season almost guaranteed to Pitt and Balt.

[MackTruck]

Holmgren is in trouble already. That is where we are going. He should have given his support to Mangini after the win over Miami, instead it leaked he was going to fire Mangini no matter what!!!!

While I thought Mangini was giong to get fired, it is clear to me, that Holmgren helped push it along and unfairly. Not a good sign moving foward.

[hiwaygal]

Originally Posted by MackTruck

Holmgren is in trouble already. That is where we are going. He should have given his support to Mangini after the win over Miami, instead it leaked he was going to fire Mangini no matter what!!!!

Can you show me where that was "leaked"?

[Masters]

It's the same "word around the league" that was the "word around the league" last year that EM wouldn't be retained.

[hiwaygal]

Originally Posted by Masters

It's the same "word around the league" that was the "word around the league" last year that EM wouldn't be retained.

ahhhh...gotcha!!!

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

MooHead radio reported a source they trust says that Mangini was fired earlier in this season ...I think he said after the Jacksonville game ...or maybe it was Carolina. Either way, the story goes that Mangini pushed Holmgren on it, asking him to be up front, and Holmgren told him he was gone.