New coach New roster,Who makes the Grade?

[Danamal]

Obviously this roster has a few key players that will stay under any tenure of a new HC but who is on the bubble and who is flat out not on this team next year?
Ward
Haden
Rubin
Roth
Hillis
Thomas
Mack
Vickers
Hardesty
McCoy
Pontbriand
Hodges

These are the clear stays but people like Rodgers DQ, Dawson,Cribbs is great draft bait,Robo,Momass,Royals are gone, who else gets a boot in the ass or gets traded?
Lots of room for conversation here but when you break it down by player and position its clear HC wasn't the only issue this team has.
Build me a team!
Just as a side note Cribbs still has some juice in him and is a fan favorite I get it but he is a good person to trade, he is kinda at the Edwards and Winslow time in his career and I think we have gotten his best so its time to trade him while he has value.

[Vegasdogg]

Cribbs, Momass and Robo all stay.

[Pedros Gaff]

if we move to a 4 3 keep jackson and he could become like vilma average in the jets 3 - 4 and stud in the 4 - 3 also keep robo hes coming along 3 tds in 3 games shows hes gettin it together now but can the others cause there bums

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Danamal

Obviously this roster has a few key players that will stay under any tenure of a new HC but who is on the bubble and who is flat out not on this team next year?
Ward
Haden
Rubin
Roth
Hillis
Thomas
Mack
Vickers
Hardesty
McCoy
Pontbriand
Hodges

These are the clear stays but people like Rodgers DQ, Dawson,Cribbs is great draft bait,Robo,Momass,Royals are gone, who else gets a boot in the ass or gets traded?
Lots of room for conversation here but when you break it down by player and position its clear HC wasn't the only issue this team has.
Build me a team!
Just as a side note Cribbs still has some juice in him and is a fan favorite I get it but he is a good person to trade, he is kinda at the Edwards and Winslow time in his career and I think we have gotten his best so its time to trade him while he has value.

If the new system the new Head Coach installs has alot of spread and single back sets, Vickers time may be limited here. I am no football expert though, correct me if I am wrong.

[PlaygroundLegend]

Stays:
:Offense:
Thomas
Steinbach
Mack
Luvao
Mccoy
Hillis
Robiskie
Stuckey
Cribbs
Moore
Watson

Defense:
Haden
Ward
Brown
Wright
Rogers
Rubin
Benard
Gocong
Roth
Fujita

Gone:
Bell
Momass
St. Clair
Delhomme
Bowens
Barton
Elam
Trusnik


stuckey is on the bubble actually because of the deep WR draft

[YtownBacker]

No matter who the coach is these got to be gone:

Rogers
Barton
St Clair
Royal
Bowens

There could be a lot more if we change to a 4-3. Not because they are over-the-hill but because they won't be good fits. I'm just listing the top bums. and, please Rogers is an over weight, out of shape bum who only cares about the money and he shouldn't be back. The man never practiced in training camp and didn't practice during the season. Don't want a guy who never practices, is a cancer and plays 12 to 15 plays a game.

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by PlaygroundLegend

Stays:
:Offense:
Thomas
Steinbach
Mack
Luvao
Mccoy
Hillis Doesn't really "fit" a true "west coast offense" could be a casualty depending on how they feel about hardesty.
Robiskie New coach may only see stasts on paper, not the "potential" that you see, could bee gone.
Stuckey
Cribbs
Moore
Watson

Defense:
Haden
Ward
Brown
Wright Liekly gone
Rogers Liekly gone
Rubin
Benard two of the next 4 LBS won't be here in 2 years
Gocong
Roth
Fujita

Gone:
Bell
Momass
St. Clair
Delhomme
Bowens
Barton
Elam
Trusnik


stuckey is on the bubble actually because of the deep WR draft

But even if I go by your numbers, 21 out of 53 players are good enough to keep? sounds like a lot of turn over and starting over agian to me.

[BernietheKid]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

But even if I go by your numbers, 21 out of 53 players are good enough to keep? sounds like a lot of turn over and starting over agian to me.

Yes it does but how many of these players would have been on an NFL roster anyway if they were not playing for the Cleveland Browns? Plus were were going to replace some of these players this year anyway.

[Jax Dawg]

So we have a serious lack of talent, need to replace a number of players because they are bums and everyone bashes Mangini for not winning more?

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

Momass

Originally Posted by PlaygroundLegend

Momass

Originally Posted by Danamal

Momass

I cannot see any reason why we would get rid of MoMass. Other than he is not a true #1 and was asked to play there anyway, he has skills. What could hurt him is an inability to pick up complicated offensive schemes, if in fact he has that problem -- I don't know.

But still I can't see dumping him unless it is part of a trade. I don't see MoMass as a poor receiver and in fact I think he has the most skills out of all of our guys.

[Danamal]

Momass?,really?.
Hillis and Watson are our one and two in the receiver department,when a wide out can't separate himself from a running back he needs to pack his bags.
Robo and Momass are slot on any legit team at best.

[The Hammer]

I hope Stuckey leaves. I can't take any more 3 yard crossing routes on 3rd and long anymore...Maybe that was Daboll's(who is definitely gone) fault though