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Report: Browns spotlight Broncos' McCoy for OC role


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  • Published: Jan. 14, 2011 at 10:21 a.m.
  • Updated: Jan. 14, 2011 at 11:28 a.m.
    Denver Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy is a candidate to fill the same role with the Cleveland Browns under new head coach Pat Shurmur, according to the Cleveland Plain Dealer on Friday, citing a league source.

    McCoy's status with Denver is up in the air after the hiring of John Fox on Thursday, but The Denver Post states that McCoy is expected to remain with the team.

    NFL Network insider Jason Canfora confirmed Thursday that Denver remains a possibility for McCoy, who worked alongside Fox coaching receivers and then quarterbacks during a nine-year stay with the Carolina Panthers.

    La Canfora reported earlier this week that the Kansas City Chiefs might pursue McCoy following offensive coordinator Charlie Weis' departure for University of Florida. McCoy was considered for the position last year before Weis was hired following his firing from Notre Dame.

    The Plain Dealer reports that if McCoy wound up in Cleveland, he would likely serve as coordinator and quarterbacks coach, with Shurmur calling plays.

    Shurmur and McCoy, along with Browns president Mike Holmgren and general manager Tom Heckert, are represented by agent Bob LaMonte, who also represents Fox.

    NFL.com news: Report: Browns spotlight Broncos' McCoy for OC role

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    Please make this guy our OC!!! PLEASE!!!
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    Don't know why he would come here to become OC/QB Coach when he would be nuetered by a guy who isn't as good as he is at OC calling the plays ...doesn't make any sense. If Denver or KC wants him to call the plays, I would think he'd go to one of those places.
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    TBPP, do you think Mike McCarthy is a good HC? Do you think his offense is good? Because his season as an OC was horrible.

    And why would anyone want to work for Todd Haley? From what I've read he is an asshole.
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    That's not the point I'm making Vegas. My point is, why would the guy come here as an OC if he's not even going to be calling the plays, when he reportedly has 2 other teams willing to give him those duties. Personally, I would LOVE for McCoy to be calling the plays in Cleveland.

    If you guys thought Mangini was conservative ...I can't wait to see what you think about Shurmur.
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    That's not the point I'm making Vegas. My point is, why would the guy come here as an OC if he's not even going to be calling the plays, when he reportedly has 2 other teams willing to give him those duties. Personally, I would LOVE for McCoy to be calling the plays in Cleveland.

    If you guys thought Mangini was conservative ...I can't wait to see what you think about Shurmur.
    Shurmur won't be conservative. His boss, Holmgren, has already said he wants "more pizzazz." And before Spags was in charge, Shurmur was part of an offensive coaching team with plenty of pizzazz in Philly.

    It's tough drawing conclusions about what a coordinator will do as a head coach because he didn't have final say, didn't set the course.

    Based on what Walrus has said he wants, I think we'll like the offense. But both guys have also brought up the need for the Browns to be able to run the ball. The WCO doesn't change that.

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    I am not sure that effects the OC coming here..It really depends on the relationship..these guys have a relationship from back in Philli and certainly the OC draws it all up.. and with an offensively minded HC like Shurmur.. it would be a concerted effort for a game plan..scripting the first 15 plays etc etc.. but it really boils down to relationship...not a power struggle.. If Shurmur hired a guy like McCoy...maybe he would not be so insistant on calling plays.. if i read the presser correctly..he said "initially" he would call the plays.. so maybe as the offense develops and gains confidence in the system..the playcalling may go to the OC.. Who knows.. But to say a guy won't come here because of that.. No one knows that. It could be a big factor or a small one..
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    Yeah, I read that with so much experience already in the building (Holmgren and Haskell), the Browns would hire a young WCO OC that Shurmur could give playcalling responsibility after a couple years.

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    If you guys thought Mangini was conservative ...I can't wait to see what you think about Shurmur.
    Based on all the articles you read that the rest of us read? You watched all 16 games he called? I know one thing, he isn't afraid to run the ball. His RB ranked 9th and 3rd the last two seasons. He did more with his WR's than Daboll was able to. Look, both Daboll and Shurmur may not have been the worst OC's, and sure we are not fair in our evaluations of our team's coaching staff, but that is how this stuff works. Trust me, Shurmur is about as ready to be a HC as Mangini was.
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    Cleveland looking at Mike McCoy (offense) and Dick Jauron (defense) for coordinator jobs: Browns Insider

    Published: Friday, January 14, 2011, 8:17 PM Updated: Saturday, January 15, 2011, 12:51 AM

    By Mary Kay Cabot, The Plain Dealer


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    Dick Jauron is a former head coach with both the Chicago Bears and Buffalo Bills.

    BEREA, Ohio — Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy and Eagles defensive backs coach Dick Jauron are two leading candidates to become the Browns' offensive and defensive coordinators, league sources told The Plain Dealer.

    The Eagles granted the Browns permission to interview Jauron, 60, and he could come to town next week, a source said.

    McCoy, 38, who just completed his second season as Broncos offensive coordinator, is a strong candidate to remain in Denver as new coach John Fox's coordinator. Before taking the Denver job, McCoy spent nine seasons in Carolina, including seven under Fox as his quarterbacks coach and passing game coordinator. McCoy has also been pursued by the Chiefs for their coordinator opening, but is not believed to be a strong contender.

    During his introductory news conference Friday, Fox admitted he'll make an aggressive bid to keep McCoy and other Broncos assistants.
    AP It won't be easy for the Browns lure Mike McCoy away from Denver.

    "Yes, I have [talked to McCoy]," Fox said. "He has other options just like we have other options. Mike is a guy that spent seven years with me prior to even coming to the Broncos, so I might even know him better than the people here in the Broncos organization. I definitely hold him in high regard and he is definitely in consideration."

    Browns coach Pat Shurmur declined to comment on the McCoy and Jauron reports during his own introductory news conference Friday.

    "Because it's an ongoing process, I'd rather not," Shurmur said. "As I mentioned, there are a lot of things going on. Information obviously spreads quickly, so I'm going to leave that be for right now. I'm not trying to avoid the question, but again, the process is very, very important."

    In Denver, McCoy would have play-calling duties, whereas in Cleveland, he might not. Shurmur has said he'll call the plays, at least in the early going. But if McCoy required that responsibility here, it would at least be part of the discussion. McCoy, a client of agent Bob LaMonte -- who also represents Shurmur and Fox -- might also be lured with an assistant head coach designation.

    As for Jauron, who runs a 4-3 scheme, the Browns would be getting a coach with 10 years of head coaching experience, more than five as a coordinator and 10 as a defensive backs coach. He worked for three seasons under Browns President Mike Holmgren in Green Bay as his defensive backs coach. He worked there with Eagles coach Andy Reid, who hired him in 2010 as senior assistant and defensive backs coach after the Bills fired him in 2009. Jauron is also a former head coach of the Bears and was NFL Coach of the Year in 2001.

    Shurmur said of his plans for the defense: "We're going to do the things necessary to build a very, very fine defense. That's obviously a very, very important piece of what we need to get done."

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    Ryan talking to Cowboys: Browns defensive coordinator Rob Ryan, who has a year left on his contract, was in talks Friday to become defensive coordinator of the

    Cowboys under Jason Garrett, foxsports.com's Jay Glazer reported.
    Ryan, who hoped to be a head coach this season, also interviewed for the Panthers' head coach job, but it went to former Chargers defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.

    Ryan's twin brother and Jets head coach, Rex, also said earlier this week that he'd love to bring Rob on board.

    Shurmur likes Colt: Shurmur spent a lot of time with Colt McCoy during the draft process last year and really liked him.

    "I'm very impressed with Colt McCoy and I think he has the skill set, the skill and ability to be a fine player in this league," said Shurmur. "He's very talented. I'm really looking forward to working with him."

    Shurmur described Rams rookie quarterback Sam Bradford the same way the Browns' coaches described McCoy.

    "[Bradford] understands what life is all about and how to play the position," Shurmur said. "He worked very hard, he hung on every word and every coaching point meant something to him. Working with Sam was a tremendous experience because I think he responded in ways that most rookies can't."

    Roster turnover: Browns GM Tom Heckert said will be a challenge for him to adapt the roster to the new West Coast offense and anticipated 4-3 scheme.

    "We knew that there was going to be turnover here," Heckert said. "We have some age on the team and obviously we have to get younger. Pat and I will sit down and once we get everything in place, we will decide which way we are going to go in a lot of positions. There's going to be some change, there's no question about it."

    Cleveland looking at Mike McCoy (offense) and Dick Jauron (defense) for coordinator jobs: Browns Insider | cleveland.com
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