It seems that you are unregistered. Please register with us by clicking here.
Barking Hard - Cleveland Browns Forum  
Go Back   Barking Hard - Cleveland Browns Forum > NFL > The Cleveland Browns
Click to log in with Facebook Barking Hard Fan Club Forum Group @ Twitter

The Cleveland Browns Place for all discussion about our beloved Browns.


Dan Pompei makes Shep happy

The Cleveland Browns


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
Senior Member
3rd string
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 291
Rep Power: 11
sofakingwhat has a spectacular aura aboutsofakingwhat has a spectacular aura about
Default Dan Pompei makes Shep happy

I call bullshit on this article.

If you believe National Football Post reporter Dan Pompei, new Cleveland Browns coach Pat Shurmur does not exactly trust quarterback Colt McCoy.
Seriously.
Despite all McCoy did during his rookie year, including wins over New England and New Orleans, does Shurmur really believe he can get someone better next season?
New Browns coach Pat Shurmur is saying all the right things about Colt McCoy, but the truth is the team is in no man’s land with the quarterback. They like what he did enough as a rookie to want to see if he can continue to develop, so that could dissuade them from investing a first round pick in another quarterback. But they haven’t seen enough to be certain that McCoy can be the man. The likely scenario is the Browns will have a veteran to compete with McCoy, but if McCoy doesn’t step up they will have wasted another year.

Cleveland Browns A.M. Links: Not the real McCoy? Brian Daboll take his talents to South Beach; Jim Zorn may come to Cleveland | cleveland.com
__________________
Homer : Aw ... The Denver Broncos !?!
Marge : I think owning the Denver Broncos is pretty good.
Homer : Yeah, yeah.
Marge : Well, explain to me why it isn't.
Homer : You just don't understand football, Marge.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
YtownBacker's Avatar
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Youngstown Area
Posts: 3,794
Rep Power: 38
YtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Sometimes you just got to laugh at some of the bullshit people write.

I guess it's a slow month for real news.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
YtownBacker's Avatar
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Youngstown Area
Posts: 3,794
Rep Power: 38
YtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond repute
Default

BTW, if Shurmur is a smart coach with a solid offensive background he will have a good veteran in camp. The NFL is a game where injuries can ruin your season. You can't put all your marbles in one box.

It's Colts job to lose. But, that doesn't mean that he can skate right into the season. He better come to camp and prove he's the guy. If not, he doesn't deserve to be the QB. I hope they bring Wallace back and draft a low round developmental guy.

You always have to have competition. But to suggest Shurmur has doubts about McCoy and doesn't trust in is Sheplike reporting.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
PlaygroundLegend's Avatar
Always picked first
Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Cleveland/University of Akron
Posts: 1,404
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 16
PlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud of
Default

Actually I agree.

Colt Mccoy is a third round draft pick, and still an unknown quantity. He didn't end the season very well, he could have a sophomore slump. we knows he's accurate and has great poise, but there ARE questions about his arm strength, and it really showed towards the end.

Im not saying he's not our guy, because he very well could be, I just think the "SAFE" thing to do, would be to approach this thing like San Diego did, when they had Brees, but drafted Rivers just in case.

It would be the smart thing to do..... which is probably why we wont do it
__________________
The 40.... the 30... the 20.... the ten... TOUCHDOWN!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,253
Rep Power: 36
golfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond repute
Default

well my thing is, I don't see a 1st round QB out there worth the pick when you do have Colt. Now the veteran back up.....guess whos a FA?

That's right Matt Hassleback...
__________________
"You can spout all you want about 'facts' and you can stroke your ego by thinking you know oh so much more about football than anyone else...or you can get your head out of your ass and realize that your opinion is worth what I paid for it. Nothing. Just the same as mine." -HIGHWAYGAL
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
YtownBacker's Avatar
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Youngstown Area
Posts: 3,794
Rep Power: 38
YtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by golfer704u View Post
well my thing is, I don't see a 1st round QB out there worth the pick when you do have Colt. Now the veteran back up.....guess whos a FA?

That's right Matt Hassleback...
I wouldn't be adverse to having Hassleback compete with Colt. I can't see that it would hurt Colt's development to learn from a former Pro Bowl WCO QB who has been in the system we will run for many years.

If Colt beats him out great. If they would start out with Hassleback and move Colt in once Hasselback got injured (you know he can't make it 16 games) I can't see where it would hurt. Might just make Colt a bit more hungry. His training period got interupted this year and I'm sure they have a whole lot more to teach him.

Either way, learn on the job or learn watching a solid veteran..............all good.

But, I honestly think it's his job to lose once they get to training camp.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,253
Rep Power: 36
golfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond reputegolfer704u has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by YtownBacker View Post
I wouldn't be adverse to having Hassleback compete with Colt. I can't see that it would hurt Colt's development to learn from a former Pro Bowl WCO QB who has been in the system we will run for many years.

If Colt beats him out great. If they would start out with Hassleback and move Colt in once Hasselback got injured (you know he can't make it 16 games) I can't see where it would hurt. Might just make Colt a bit more hungry. His training period got interupted this year and I'm sure they have a whole lot more to teach him.

Either way, learn on the job or learn watching a solid veteran..............all good.

But, I honestly think it's his job to lose once they get to training camp.
I think you are probably in a very small minority in that opninion
__________________
"You can spout all you want about 'facts' and you can stroke your ego by thinking you know oh so much more about football than anyone else...or you can get your head out of your ass and realize that your opinion is worth what I paid for it. Nothing. Just the same as mine." -HIGHWAYGAL
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
YtownBacker's Avatar
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Youngstown Area
Posts: 3,794
Rep Power: 38
YtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond reputeYtownBacker has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Is Italian-American really a small minority?......................................
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
PlaygroundLegend's Avatar
Always picked first
Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Cleveland/University of Akron
Posts: 1,404
Blog Entries: 1
Rep Power: 16
PlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud ofPlaygroundLegend has much to be proud of
Default

The reason I think we should draft another QB at some point, is A... we could end up like the Chargers (thats a good thing BTW, because phillip rivers is awesome) or we could end up like the Bills.... putting everything on Trent Edwards

Dont put all of your eggs into a 3rd round QB's basket, not smart. Colt CAN be the guy, but he isnt yet
__________________
The 40.... the 30... the 20.... the ten... TOUCHDOWN!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
Senior Member
3rd string
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 291
Rep Power: 11
sofakingwhat has a spectacular aura aboutsofakingwhat has a spectacular aura about
Default

I would not blow a 1st on a QB this year. If they want to bring in a vet, ok. There are too many holes to fill to go with a QB that early, later rounds ok also.
__________________
Homer : Aw ... The Denver Broncos !?!
Marge : I think owning the Denver Broncos is pretty good.
Homer : Yeah, yeah.
Marge : Well, explain to me why it isn't.
Homer : You just don't understand football, Marge.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
Brown Warrior's Avatar
Senior Member
Hall of Famer
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 5,011
Rep Power: 17
Brown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant futureBrown Warrior has a brilliant future
Default

Shep actually likes McCoy quite a bit. He was looking for something to like and he started writing about it immediately after McCoy's very first start. A lot, actually.

Shep thinks McCoy deserves undisputed starter status for one full offseason and one full regular season in Holmgren's WCO, the offense he seems born to run. Sure, he's a little light in the arm, but his improvement arc in that area from training camp to first start was undeniable and it's likely to continue. In today's NFL, especially in a WCO, you don't need a big arm... you need ENOUGH arm. And with McCoy's accuracy, anticipation, and ability to throw on the run and from a variety of "platforms?"

Shep thinks McCoy has a chance to be really, really good.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 01-18-2011
Vegasdogg's Avatar
grumpy bastard
All-Pro
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Las Vegas NV
Posts: 4,798
Rep Power: 42
Vegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond reputeVegasdogg has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Hasselback comes in to back up your starter, not stunt the young starters growth, whoever that guy is. Colt was born for the WCO. Let him sink or swim in 2011.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
awesome, band, board, bradford, brady quinn, brian daboll, browns, clausen, cleveland, cleveland browns, cleveland.com, coaching, college, colt mccoy, combine, community, defense, delhomme, draft, florida, football, forum, free agent, funny, god, health, holmgren, injured, injury, jets, jim zorn, joe montana, love, mangini, mccoy, media, nba, nfl, offense, pete carroll, peyton manning, phil savage, playoffs, poll, position, press conference, quarterback, record, safety, sam bradford, speed, tags, thomas, training camp, video, wallace, ward, wco, youtube

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:17 PM.


plush
no new posts
Inactive Reminders By Icora Web Design

Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0