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Okay draft nuts, who's this "Quinn" guy? I know I have reservations because of the LAST Quinn we brought on to this team...
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I think Alo has been impressed with Quinn 2.0 for a while now. Just search this board and I bet you find him talking about it.
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That is some yummy stuff, Gabe. Awesome. I actually love Kiper. Not because he's right (nobody's ever very right predicting picks because one change screws the pooch) but because he's just so passionate about the draft and he makes it a lot of fun. He does the homework and logs the miles. If you love the draft, it's tough to NOT love Mel. There are SCADS of scenarios where Green ends up in Cleveland, a no-brainer pick at that point. It's a DL heavy draft and we just need one CB and one QB to complete that top five without A.J. in it. It's very possible. Newton, Gabbert, Peterson, The Prince, Bowers, Fairley, Dareus... that's 7 for 5. I also agree with Mel's assertion that the Browns could pick Green and then go mostly defense with the rest of their draft. If we can get a serious RT in free agency (Clabo would be an amazing get) those two pieces added to the offense would be really, really significant. We have the other pieces. We could go front 7 with picks 2, 3, and 4. There might be some really nice LBs in free agency. Greenway, Ruud, and some tackling machine MLB from the Titans. |
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If Green is there... im gonna go out on a limb and say TRADE DOWN and rape the team of picks, (trade down to slots 9-14) and pick up a 2nd rounder. That way we can get one of the awesome 2nd round WR's and still get the missing 4-3 OLB we need in Von Miller, and a RT or DE prospect in round 2. We need MORE top of the line players guys... How would you feel about getting Quinn in the first, Miller in the second (he's gonna drop), Young in the third for WR? This draft is still deep at WR, Im all about going for WR's in the first round, but were switching defenses, and we dont have the right pieces Plus I think Green is getting a tad bit more hype than neccesary
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You know you're my homey, PGL... but we totally disagree on this one. We have a bunch of parts and pieces at WR and adding another second or third tier complementary player would be a HUGE disservice to Colt McCoy and the team. We play in a passing league, something the playoffs have reinforced even more, and we've just sucked ass at it for a long time (with the "blip" in 2007, with Winslow and Edwards on the team). I don't see another team in the league that can match our massive hole at WR, not even the Rams. If I were projecting Green and Jones, I'd start by looking at the Browns and Rams. If we don't get Green, we need to get Jones. Certainly we need some players for the front seven. No doubt. I could see us going there in both rounds 2 and 3 as well as a couple high level additions in free agency. We really need some guys we have to adapt to the 4-3 as well. It's the right time to NOT lose Shaun Rogers, D'Qwell Jackson (cheap show-me deal), or Matt Roth. I think Shaefering might be a really nice 4-3 DT next to Rubin. On the right side of the line, Lauvao, Yates, Womack, and Pashos all come back. That cupboard is not bare. Behind last year's line we had a 1,200 rusher and only gave up a respectable 35 sacks. It's not a screaming need; most of our struggles were about injuries. We need playmakers in a big, huge, fat, enormous way. We need Green or Jones. I wouldn't shop beneath that price bracket. Quote:
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PGL presents an interesting scenario. Good news for us? We'll have a top quality war room responsible for the decision. If Heckert/Holmgren/Shurmur take a deal that would provide us another 2nd round pick and drop us down to early middle first round; I won't cry. It will tell me that they felt Green was either over-rated OR they see enough WR depth roughly equivalent. We need 2 to 3 defensive linemen. I think Rubin is the only shoe-in as a long term starter on the DL going forward. I like Roth, but more on running downs. I like Rogers, but have to doubt his viability based on attitude/age. Everyone else is a dog with even more fleas. We need 2 linebackers. Fujita is my only shoe-in as a starter. We need 1 safety and 1 CB. This depth of need is what makes a trade down to garner more picks viable. That said I sure would hate to pass on Green if he's truly rated as the elite WR of the draft. We absolutely are dying for a legit number one. Its that bad. |
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