With the 38th Pick...

[Shep]

Digging on Alo's fave site, Draft Insider. They really like Kareem Jackson, too. Have him in the 2nd round:

"Terrific young cornerback prospect with a high upside. Possesses size and plays with great strength. Must brush up his game but a very good future cornerback."

[mz.]

OK, so you're willing to spend 38 on a guy who "must brush up his game" over a guy who compares favorably to Darelle Revis at 7, in lieu of (presumably) Dez Bryant?

I'm sorry, but I'll take Haden/Benn over Bryant/this dude in a cocaine heartbeat.

[ramrod]

I wouldnt mind Ryan Mathews with the 38th pick. Maybe we could trade up and get Kindle, Id be ok with that.

[Riffer X]

I would think the wonderful East Side of Cleveland would be very alluring to a guy like Bryant.

On the bright side we could have another really cool WR with the last name Bryant.

[PB&J]

Assuming like Mz that you want to take Dez, I would rather have Haden or Berry at 7 and Demaryius Thomas at 38 if we go DB/WR. Thomas is huge, fast and has good hands. The triple option limited him, and he broke his foot a few weeks ago. Could be a really good value pick.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by PB&J

Could be a really good value pick.

Exactly. I was merely throwing Benn out there as an example.

Bryant blew his shot to separate himself enough from the pack to merit being picked at 7 IMO. And unless we luck out/trade up for Bradford (which ain't happening), I'd like to ask shep who he'd take at seven. Is it still Bryant???

[Shep]

Right now, today... no. But I HATE taking a corner at #7 because you just can't get that much shajammie out of a corner. No way.

And Kareem Jackson is a total stud, if you've watched 'Bama. He gets love from every draftnick I read and he could slip into round one. He is NOT "this guy."

He's a terrific corner prospect. We'd be really strong there with Wright, Jackson, and McDonald.

I'd sorta-kinda like to trade out of 7 if we can't get to Berry or Bradford and we don't want Bryant, who I'm cooling on a little.

Could trade down, take Kyle Wilson or Earl Thomas. With a couple 2s and a couple 3s, it turns into a crazy ass draft.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by Shep

I'd sorta-kinda like to trade out of 7 if we can't get to Berry or Bradford and we don't want Bryant, who I'm cooling on a little.

I should have added Berry to the list of guys we can't get our hands on.

It's looking like if we don't go Haden, I don't know what the f is going to happen. But I want a blue-chipper, dammit. I don't want to trade down.

[Shep]

Yeah, but a blue-chip corner... is kinda baby blue. The bottom-line difference between Haden, Jackson, and Wilson next year? To the Browns, in overall defense and wins?

Nada.

[Riffer X]

Shep, I really think you are devaluing the role a top flight corner can play. There is also a difference from a real blue chip like Haden to someone who just has first round talent. Haden could be our Revis and immediately Wright would become an even better corner than what he is, which is pretty good. It makes a huge difference in scheming and getting after the QB, especially considering we have Big Gay Ben to deal with buying time.

A guy like Haden could be the difference from beating Pittspuke or not.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by Shep

Yeah, but a blue-chip corner... is kinda baby blue. The bottom-line difference between Haden, Jackson, and Wilson next year? To the Browns, in overall defense and wins?

Nada.

Baby blue my butt.

And a CB affects wins as much as any other position does, besides QB. If you feel differently, show me data. A great player is a great player is a great player.

And since we BOTH agree that the NFL is a passer's league, wouldn't you want a Revis-style corner on your team to help shut that down? I would, and do.

Originally Posted by Riffer X

Shep, I really think you are devaluing the role a top flight corner can play. There is also a difference from a real blue chip like Haden to someone who just has first round talent.

Well said, Riff. I was going to make the comparison between how the Jets feel about Revis (the former) and Sheppard (the latter). The difference is glaring.

[Alo]

I haven't watched enough of Jackson to say anything with much confidence, but here are my general impressions:

- Good stop & start ability
- Willing to deliver the big hit
- Struggles to get off blocks
- Has some trouble locating/attacking the ball, especially on high throws

His 40 will be very important - one thing almost universally noted is that it's hard to hell how fast he is.

Also, I'll be looking for a good vertical, both because of what I've seen and due to his arms beings the shortest of any corner at the Combine (Joe Haden's are the longest).

YouTube- CB K areem J ackson Highlights/Lowlights 2009 A labama