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Is Dorsey "up" in KC...I think he is grossly misused as 3-4 end. He is a dominant 4-3 DT. I try to get his ass to Cleveland. Go get Ghoulston on the cheap, maybe puzluzney....Draft Robert Quinn or Dareus...Big Marvin Austin poof poof good young defense.
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Hell I've said it all year... I'd almost like to make this draft all about UNC Tarheals...I'd take 6 guys from there team. Robert Quinn, Marvin Austin, Deunta Williams, Greg little, Quan sturdivant, and Bruce Carter....hell they even have a solid corner too (name escapes me)

...I really wish we could have seen UNC this past year field all the guys they could have.
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Don’t rule out drafting another DB


By Don Delco
OBR Browns Reporter
Posted Feb 22, 2011




Selecting another stud defensive back may be Browns best option at No. 6.

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Three things are certain come springtime in these United States of America.
1. Everyone’s NCAA March Madness bracket will be busted by the beginning of the second round. Thanks, Sienna.
2. Everyone’s first-round mock draft will be wrong, save for a pick here or there. Thanks, Al Davis.
3. Taxes are due April 15. Thanks, Uncle Sam.

When it comes to No. 2, most mockers are in agreement the Cleveland Browns will select a defensive lineman or, if available, Georgia wide receiver A.J. Green. But what happens -- as is the case with most drafts -- when things don’t unfold the way they were planned?

Perhaps the Browns should consider drafting another first-round defensive back.

Before we get to the two defensive backs to consider at No. 6, let’s go back to last season. The Browns selected Florida defensive back Joe Haden with the seventh overall pick. Haden finally started ahead of Eric Wright entering the Browns’ 12th game of the season.

Fittingly, Haden finished with five total tackles, four passes defended and one interception in a Browns’ 13-10 win over Miami on Dec. 5.

For the season, Haden finished with 50 tackles, one forced fumble and was fifth in the NFL with six interceptions behind Baltimore’s Ed Reed with eight and New England’s Devin McCourty, Pittsburgh’s Troy Polamalu and Philadelphia’s Asante Samuel with seven apiece.
It appears the Browns have one stud cornerback. So why not have two?

The NFL has become a pass-first league. Rules, such as the no-contact beyond five yards, have benefited wide receivers and quarterbacks. Completion percentages are at an all-time high. In the Super Bowl earlier this month, only 36 rushes were attempted compared to 79 passing attempts.

When it comes to Cleveland’s division, the AFC North, first thought is this is a black-and-blue, smash-mouth division. Yet, in six games, Pittsburgh’s Ben Roethlisberger, Baltimore’s Joe Flacco and Cincinnati’s Carson Palmer combined to finish 104-for-158 passing (65.8 percent complete) for 1,481 yards with 12 touchdowns and two interceptions. Individually, Flacco was 34-for-50 for 364 with five touchdowns and one interception, Palmer was 39-for-59 for 580 yards with two touchdowns and no interceptions and Roethlisberger was 31-for-49 for 537 yards with five touchdowns and one interception.

One reason for their success were some excellent wide receiver targets. Baltimore’s Anquan Bolden had eight catches for 142 yards and three touchdowns in the Ravens’ 24-17 win over the Browns on Sept. 26. A week later, Cincinnati’s Terrell Owens had 10 catches for 222 yards and one touchdown in a Browns’ 23-20 victory and Pittsburgh’s Mike Wallace and his 56-yard touchdown reception in the first quarter of the season finale Jan. 2, sparked the Steelers’ 41-9 route.

While you may think the Browns’ biggest rivals are smash-mouth, they can throw the ball and throw it effectively against the Browns.

So, that brings us back to drafting another “Joe Haden.”
LSU’s Patrick Peterson is regarded as not only one of the top cornerbacks in this year’s draft, but also a top overall prospect.
“This silky smooth corner was the best cover player I saw last year,” wrote CBSSports.com’s Pete Prisco. “He was better than Joe Haden ... This kid is special.”

Peterson (6-foot-1, 222 pounds) won the Jim Thorpe Award, which is given each year to college football’s best defensive back. He was a consensus All-American, the first player since Michigan’s Charles Woodson in 1997 to also win the Chuck Bednarik Award, which is given to the nation’s best defensive player, and he was the SEC Defensive player of the Year.
Peterson is so good there is a slim chance he falls to No. 6.

Yet some believe there isn’t a wide gap between Peterson and Nebraska’s Prince Amukamara. At 6-1, 205, Amukamara has all the tools to be a top NFL cornerback. Some have said Amukamara is a better tackler than Peterson. In 48 career games, Amukamara had five interceptions, 100 solo tackles, 26 passes defended, forced three fumbles and had four sacks.

“Prince Amukamara is not a future safety,” writes Yahoo!’s Shutdown Corner blogger and friend of The OBR Doug Farrar. “At worst, he's a decent and slightly overdrafted corner, and at best, he's a star waiting to happen.”

In order to stop good passing games, the Browns must find defenders. Drafting another top-10 defensive back to complement Haden would not be a bad thing.

Of course, that theory can also be turned on its head. When I presented the defensive back theory to a friend, he responded, “Well, if this league favors talented wide receivers, why not go and get one of your own?”

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I would throw big money at Ray Edwards and go after Gholston. Than I would draft Quinn or Aldon Smith to go along with Austin that is if he slides into round three. I think that would be a good start to a defense. Than on the O side go after Steve Smith(NYG) at WR and draft Little or Hankerson. I would also try to pick up a RT too. So many postions so little picks.
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Steve Smith won't go anywhere but NY... he blew out his knee and probably doesn't start the season on an active roster.
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Steve Smith won't go anywhere but NY... he blew out his knee and probably doesn't start the season on an active roster.
Giants | May look to re-sign Steve Smith to incentive deal
Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:56:33 -0800
The New York Giants may look to re-sign impending free-agent WR Steve E. Smith (knee) to an incentive-laden deal because of his knee injury, reports CBSSports.com.
Source: CBSSports.com

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Giants | Steve Smith will not be tagged
Mon, 21 Feb 2011 07:34:10 -0800
Although there had been speculation the New York Giants could place the franchise tag on WR Steve E. Smith (knee), his knee surgery has most likely eliminated any chance of that, according to CBSSports.com. The team will definitely be interested in bringing Smith back, but he may have to sign an incentive-based deal.
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I would throw big money at Ray Edwards and go after Gholston. Than I would draft Quinn or Aldon Smith to go along with Austin that is if he slides into round three. I think that would be a good start to a defense. Than on the O side go after Steve Smith(NYG) at WR and draft Little or Hankerson. I would also try to pick up a RT too. So many postions so little picks.
i love the Quinn , austin and little Idea...I really think edwards will have a rich price tag.
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i love the Quinn , austin and little Idea...I really think edwards will have a rich price tag.
I know he will but I think he's worth it. If there is a rookie wage scale you won't have to worry about tying up salary in one position.
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My plan for free agency is the "double dip" plan on the most critical need spots..

* WR: Draft One.. Pick up a free agent (maybe two, but definately one)
* DL: Draft One.. One free agent
* LB: Draft one, One free agent
* DB: Draft one, one free agent (one safety one corner.. which is draft and which is F/A does not matter)

* RT... either one..just bring in some younger talent.

I don't think it's unreasonable to bring in 4-5 free agents.. The draft..is obvious..
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I think that's pretty close to accurate when the dust clears, Sez. Couple WRs, couple DL, couple LBs, maybe a couple DBs (depends on Wright, Francies, and Adams... all of whom might stay and Francies is playing some safety).
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Guys I want at #6 Quinn or Fairley...Guys, I wouldn't mind one bit Cam Newton,Petersen, Miller, Green, Dareus. Guys I hate @ #6 prince, julio, not a huge bowers fan either...not that they won't be good or even great...just don't want them. Needless to say I think I'll be happy with any of those 7 guys. Quinn not playing gives us a huge chance at landing him.
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I'm starting to get a vibe that Quinn rips up the Combine and people start talking about how he's a freak athlete, he's healthy after a year off, and he's very young and will only get better. He might go #1 overall because the first team up is a 4-3 team and Quinn is going 270-plus. Feels almost like an NBA pick, a projection.

If that happens, it still comes down to the Bengals and whether they'd take A.J. Green at #4. Let's guess that Bowers still goes second and Newton goes third. That leaves Green, Fairley, Dareus, and Peterson on the board for the Bengals. They don't need a corner.
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