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Some notable unofficial times:
- AJ Green: 4.48, 4.51 (still the best WR in the draft)
- Julio Jones: 4.43, 4.39 (big boost to his stock)
- Jon Baldwin: 4.52, 4.45
- Greg Little: 4.56, 4.58 (rumored to have huge character concerns)
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- Leonard Hankerson: 4.47, 4.45
- DeAndre Brown: 4.63
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jj is great-- just not at #6
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I think Hankerson will be a solid receiver
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I think Hankerson will be a solid receiver
I know, he did crappy on that receiving drill just now.
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AJ Green with an underwhelming 34.5" vertical. The odds that he could be there at #6 are going up.
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AJ Green with an underwhelming 34.5" vertical. The odds that he could be there at #6 are going up.
Alo, you know what the BIGGEST surprise was to me today? I always read Julio was 6'4" and Green was 6'2" (and a quarter).

Today when they showed the Jones vrs green comparison, they had Green listed as 6'3" (and 5/8, which rounds up to 6'4") while Jones was just a tiny fraction over 6'2".

I'm one that ALWAYS liked Julio's improvement as a junior to the extent of liking him in a tradedown. That said, regardless of fitness tests - Mayock reminded everyone 1 more time you gotta look at the film on promising prospects. NOBODY runs butter routes than Green IMO and at 6'4" - I'm impressed even more. That might be the most pleasant surprise of the day for me.

Not that a 4.5 forty sucks considering that's all Rice could ever run; but Heckert reminded people that a disappointing 40 for a Joe Haden that showed up fast on film was a beautiful thing for the Cleveland Browns.

Aside from that, I never see WRs or cornerbacks starting any play from a track sprinter stance so is it all totally relevant? Can't lose sight of the football player thing Riffer mentioned repeatedly that only got official credibility when Mike Mayock said it for some reason.
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Let's be real: Julio made some money today. In addition to running a sick 4.39 at 6'3" and 220 with those guns, he broke the long jump record or something (still unclear). He isn't just a workout warrior, either, given his production. Tough to imagine him getting out of the top 10... and he'll edge his way into some mocks at #6, I bet.
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AA, where's the best place to follow the numbers when all your TVs are taken? Where do they post the quickest?
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Twitter's probably the best, but WalterFootball does a good job of updating the times.
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Let's be real: Julio made some money today. In addition to running a sick 4.39 at 6'3" and 220 with those guns, he broke the long jump record or something (still unclear). He isn't just a workout warrior, either, given his production. Tough to imagine him getting out of the top 10... and he'll edge his way into some mocks at #6, I bet.
Julio has always been this elite prospect since coming out of high school Shep.

The MAIN thing he had to learn jumping levels was that if he wants to be a Pro WR, he HAS to improve his concentration as well as learn how to master the craft of the position. There's been varying acceptance levels of his skillset on here. I thought his GIGANTIC improvement from 09 to 10 was worthy of note. Meanwhile others were comparing him to the benchmark of excellence at WR (AJ sGreens); so they'd really harp on a drop thinking AJs catches that. Understandable I guess.

I don't think the Indy #s will change who the better football player is at WR right now. If I want the most impressive route runner and I have a choice between Green and my other favorite WR (Julios), I'm taking Green. That said, in the last 365 days Julios made the bigger improvement on the WR craft since he had alot more room for improvement.

As I said, I entered 2010 as a Julios Jones critic thinking he never belonged in the same sentence with AJs Greens. After watching 4 different Bama games and parts of others in 2010, Julios closed the gap to what I considered a very nice plan B to Green. As you know, I didn't wait for Indy to come out with that. My favorite offensive tradedown snag has been Julio while on defense it remains Watt even if Heckert described the next Richard Seymour as a DT here with some flexibility to play end. Let's not make this about defense though so we can stay on Julio.

The most important thing is being at #6 gives us some really good options.
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IMO, based on one day in shorts, do you really think Jones erased what scouts and GMs have been viewing on tape for more then a year? He was expected to run what he ran and he was expected to jump what he did. He did great, as he was supposed to, but he didn't rise to the top of the draft boards.

I don't think anyone was surprised and I don't think he moved any closer to Green or became an option at #6 for the Browns. He is the #2 WR in the draft and will be a #10 to #16 pick. That's where he was before the combine.
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