The Career Span of Outside Pass Rushers

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by Brown Warrior

Yeah, but Y... it's not like we have an explosive group of skill players. We have a grind-it-out tailback and a bunch of slow-ish #2 and #3 WRs. It's not good and Holmgren's adopted son will suffer for it. The lack of commitment to elite playmaker talent really is showing up. It's not like we've turned commitment into Tom Brady, Mike Wallace, and Marques Colston.

We have a very dire need at WR... but I like what I've heard from everybody, from Shurmur pointing out that we need to be both efficient and explosive in the passing game and Holmgren saying we need home run hitters. Because to me, that's kind of a "duh."

This team lacks highlight guys. We have shitloads of lunchpail guys.

My point is.........................it doesn't matter what round they were drafted in. Lunchpail guys can come from the first round or the 6th round. Once they put on the uniform and start playing with the team, what round they were drafted in really doesn't matter. It's all about how you play the game. So, it can be Colston or Dez suiting up and it really doesn't matter what round they came from once they line it up with the team.

Quinn was a first rounder and he didn't even amount to a lunchpailer. The round you were drafted in doesn't make you, your performance on the field makes you.

We need to draft better talent on both sides of the ball. Shitty drafting makes a team full of lunchpail guys.

[nickers]

Originally Posted by Flugel

Well done Shep. This is a team that blue collars itself to compete every week for 4 quarters. Unfortunately, we've lost more games than we won by a margin of just 1-2 big plays. I wholeheartedly agree it's time to get the playmakers and scoreboard changers. In the process, the blue collar portions will begin to get rewarded on the final scores.

Another great analogy Tom. I think were all comming to realize that yes as great as blue collar is, Its a different age today as Shep well noted in previouse posts. Green Bay was a defining vision to that testament as with the Pats,Saints and teams like the Chargers...Teams like Pittsburgh are few and far between these days, But its thier recipe..Its worked for them...Maybe Im talking out of My ass here a bit but I can see a guy like BenRot take a huge decline in his game considering the pounding hes taken the last couple of years. I just dont think theyre recipe is gonna work much longer with the game changing as it has. A consistent passer is more crucial in terms of Rhythmic performance than living on one big play after big play as Ben has. Ben has been a one dimensonal QB his entire career, and I think he owes most of his success to Hines Ward,Polamalu and Jerome Bettis and a stout defense wich is now aging on the front seven. Theyre getting older and were getting significantly younger. It will be up to Jauron and Rhodes to acclimate our youngsters to really play smart ball and Im happy were going back to a more "man" style of defense. Zone defense spells "prevent" to me wich never prevented anything but a win. I just want to see corners actually jam someone instead of giving 5-10 yard cushions on every snap.