Results of Atlanta trade

[OconRecon]

So, we in effect traded Julio Jones for:

1. Run plugger Phil Taylor from Baylor

2. RB turned WR Greg Little from UNC

3. Paul Hornung Award winner Owen "the most versatile player in college football" Macecic from Stanford

4. Atlanta's first rounder in 2012

5. Atlanta's fourth rounder in 2012


John Clayton says it was a trade the Browns had to take. Of course ita a time will tell deal, but let's hope this one has the Heckert though.

[pl4tinum]

I'd be happy with that trade even if you didn't include the 4th next year, so I'd say I approve completely!

[Crow]

I'm taking that trade everyday. I'm taking that trade not even knowing we were going to take those guys.

We raped Atlanta like a fat QB in a restroom.

[Jax Dawg]

Originally Posted by Crow

I'm taking that trade everyday. I'm taking that trade not even knowing we were going to take those guys.

We raped Atlanta like a fat QB in a GEORGIA restroom.

There, fixed it for you and agree.

[Crow]

We essentially Jay Cutlered Atlanta.

[Enigmatic Evil]

I agree it was a trade we "had" to make and when you look at what we got with that trade, I think it's hard to dispute that we came out 'victorious' in that trade. Unless all three of those picks bust and Julio Jones emerges to be the next Jerry Rice, anyway.

We addressed multiple needs for THIS season AAAND we are sitting pretty for next year's NFL draft too. It's hard not to give this trade a thumbs up.

[Riffer X]

This is the kind of trade we should have made back in 1999 going forward. Unfortunately, no matter how many picks we would have had or did accumulate, dunderheads like Clark, Butchie and Phillip couldn't have been worse at screwing them up.

[Enigmatic Evil]

Exactly Riffer. Now that we have a competent front office, it's so easy to ridicule the false prophets of the past but on the other hand it's hard not to when Tom Heckert makes doing his job look so easy by comparison. I just think back to William Green who was the first, first round pick I was really truly disappointed with. Haden, now Taylor, defense wins championships and we're building the proper way.

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

Unfortunately, no matter how many picks we would have had or did accumulate, dunderheads like Clark, Butchie and Phillip couldn't have been worse at screwing them up.

As much as I trust (and drink the kool aid) Tom Heckert, this is always in the back of my mind and makes me skittish. I mean for fucks sake we don't have many players from 10 years of drafting. You look as NE and PIT and they have somewhere like 35 players on the team that they drafted. Our players? 90% are out of the league. Not on other teams - out of the league!

Really? Is there any worse feeling as a fan than the knowledge that our GM's were picking sexy players that no longer play in the NFL?

Arrggh. Pathetic.

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

As much as I trust (and drink the kool aid) Tom Heckert, this is always in the back of my mind and makes me skittish. I mean for fucks sake we don't have many players from 10 years of drafting. You look as NE and PIT and they have somewhere like 35 players on the team that they drafted. Our players? 90% are out of the league. Not on other teams - out of the league!

Really? Is there any worse feeling as a fan than the knowledge that our GM's were picking sexy players that no longer play in the NFL?

Arrggh. Pathetic.

It pisses me off for sure now that we see actual competent guys. Clark was pathetic, he had no business whatsoever being in that position.

Butch was an egomaniac glued to his boys he either recruited, were from Florida or he played against. He only trusted his sidekick Pete Garcia and didn't listen to scouts. Taking Chaun Thompson in the second is still the all time worst pick I have ever seen, he would have been there in the fifth. It's one thing when a guy just busts and you miss, but to have such an out of control ego that you take a kid just to show everybody how smart you are--then you are a tool.

Phillip was a little Napoleon who flaunted his religion as he was throwing temper tantrums and giving RAC 'n ROLLS wrong scheme bodies. Plus, the Opie boy had a total fetish for Oklahoma guys. Something else about Savage: nobody dared to disagree with him. I still remember him on the televised Browns Backer Event when he put a mic in the face of all his scouts and FO types asking them who the starter would be. They all said DA like little subservient bitches until he got to JT, who said "DA????"

[Vegasdogg]

Chaun Thompson or Beau Bell? Hey I love Pontibrand, but really? If you have a good team than taking a LS is not super dumb, and Pontibrand is a pretty neat player for us, but that is like taking a placeholder - almost. If we are not lacking players I would see the fit.

Trying to fit Rogers and Williams into the 3-4 was a gamble that didn't pay off. I know Rogers is an elite talent but his best use is penetrating and disrupting. We asked him to tie up OL and read/react. I never got those two moves.

Didn't Butch trade a 2nd to move up one spot to take Winslow? Or was that Savage with Wimbley? Or both?

Dwight Clark. Man I forgot all the stupid shit he did - I guess that is my way of healing. Bam - 1st pick in the draft, 1st pick in the draft, 3rd pick in the draft, all suckage. Really? Does that break some records or what? And don't get me started in Chris Palmer. Even as a QB coach his record is spotty, but HC?

I need to try and forget all of that. Heckert needs to make me forget.

[Brown Warrior]

I'm much more optimistic about the trade... but as always, time will tell. When we made the Jets trade, I was actually optimistic. When I look back... it's like we got a center with a #5 overall pick. So now I'm trying to withhold judgment, which is really tough for me.

The key players are Taylor, Jones, and Little. When you make these stockpile trades, the key indicator is the guy you gave up... in this case, Julio Jones. In a way, we made up for it with Little, so you can watch and compare guys who play the same position and are almost certain to be in the lineups immediately.

And then there's Taylor, a pick that Heckert/Jauron clearly wanted to make (given the trade up) but seems a little confusing to many, given that he seems so similar to Rubin. More of a nose. But as several pointed out here, Jauron has played with two fat bodies before, and so have the Vikings.

Again... not an accident. So I'm eager to see how it works.