How not to waste a first round pick.

[Alo]

Oh, nothing. Ramrod & I hugged it out.

[Inspecta]

Originally Posted by ramrod

Dude, DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING ON THESE BOARDS ARE OPINIONS. You have some smancy pancy way of twisting info your way as far as QB's needing a team around them first, well anyone can do the same the other way around. You can throw out players names and I can throw out players names. We can all prove points to make it fit our "suggestion". But it is a OPINION.

Maybe this will help you. I BELIEVE, 100% sure, IMO, that Bradford has a way better chance of being a better QB than Brady Quinn. Is that a fact? NO, ITS MY OPINION. Its worth nothing, just like your opinions but we still both say them. Does that help you?

My thing is its easier to give birth than revive the dead. Like in my business I have sales guys, some that have been here for years and they just dont got it anymore. I move on and hire someone fresh and new and I 100% believe that I have a better shot of making them better than the guy that could never really put it together.

I find this post highly ironic.


Lecturing us on how all these posts are just opinions when you're the king of stating opinions as facts at every turn....

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by ramrod

Dude, DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING ON THESE BOARDS ARE OPINIONS. You have some smancy pancy way of twisting info your way as far as QB's needing a team around them first,.

When McNabb got drafted by Philly in 99 - it was because they stunk so bad in 98 they earned the right to draft him at #2 overall (they would have drafted #1 overall if we weren't re-entering the league that year). He had NOBODY in that offense yet. However, that team was winning playoff games as early as the 2000 season with a bunch of stiffs at WR and no Westbrook yet. And why? McNabb was making everyone around in that offense better.

They went from bad to elite pretty freakin quick. Then there's the NE team that was winless with Bledsoe before an inexperienced Tom Brady took over and led the same team to a Superbowl Championship. I'll bet some of the Bledsoe faithful were thinking he just needed better players around him until they caught Tom Brady's act showing it was up to the QB to get those players performing at a higher level.

It always helps to have talent around the QB but that doesn't mean a really special QB can't look good if he doesn't have alot of takent around him. We've seen it work.
- Tom F.

[DaBrowns41]

Originally Posted by Flugel

When McNabb got drafted by Philly in 99 - it was because they stunk so bad in 98 they earned the right to draft him at #2 overall (they would have drafted #1 overall if we weren't re-entering the league that year). He had NOBODY in that offense yet. However, that team was winning playoff games as early as the 2000 season with a bunch of stiffs at WR and no Westbrook yet. And why? McNabb was making everyone around in that offense better.

They went from bad to elite pretty freakin quick. Then there's the NE team that was winless with Bledsoe before an inexperienced Tom Brady took over and led the same team to a Superbowl Championship. I'll bet some of the Bledsoe faithful were thinking he just needed better players around him until they caught Tom Brady's act showing it was up to the QB to get those players performing at a higher level.

It always helps to have talent around the QB but that doesn't mean a really special QB can't look good if he doesn't have alot of takent around him. We've seen it work.
- Tom F.

You're posting exceptions. There are always a few exceptions to the rule.