BROWNS OWN FA's

[Riffer X]

This is the list, and I have bolded who I would like to keep.

I want to keep Dawson and Moore, but two first rounders will never happen or I would take it for Dawson, obviously. He's been a great Brown and I would like to keep him here with an extended contract along with Thomas and Hillis for sure. Nobody is going to give up a second for Moore, either.

I would like to move on from Poke Chop, he struggled even at guard down the stretch last year, but that is assuming we sign a suitable swing man at T/G. If we keep Yates around, he can backup at both G/C and is more than adequate, as he proved last year.

Robaire is a must, IMO. Still a good player and versatile, plus healthy. Would make a good vet swing man and mentor for the kids.

Ready to move on from Elam unless he wants to stay cheap as a backup. I thought he played pretty well last year, but he doesn't fit this scheme with Ward.

Alex Smith is a better fit for the actual TE role in this scheme, so Estandia is not necessary except for camp. Bell is gone, Piscitelli may be one of the worst pound for pound players in the league, Sorenson's time is up with Hagg here, Stuckey gone, Trusnik probably not a fit anymore, and Vickers we know is gone.

Wright gets a reprieve just for the fact we have needs, so perhaps he can light a fire under his ass and realize he is not a diva corner and never was. He can start by committing to tackling and playing better and more physical bump.
Browns free agents

• Unrestricted (Can sign with any team): RB Mike Bell; S Abe Elam; TE Greg Estandia; DE Jayme Mitchell; DB Sabby Piscitelli; DE Derreck Robinson; LB Matt Roth; DE Robaire Smith; DB Nick Sorensen; WR Chansi Stuckey; LB Jason Trusnik; FB Lawrence Vickers; G Floyd Womack; CB Eric Wright; G Billy Yates
• Restricted (Browns have right of first refusal, a team must surrender a draft pick depending on the tender): TE Evan Moore (2nd round tender)
• Franchise player (Browns have right of first refusal, a team must surrender two first-round picks): K Phil Dawson

[BernietheKid]

Good stuff Riff! The only other player I could see us keeping is Womack, and that is if we don't sign another RT.

[Riffer X]

I would really like to upgrade from Poke Chop, Berns. He was not good at all going down the stretch last year, and I remember him getting abused by Ziggy Hood at guard. He may have been hurt, but an upgrade for a tackle/guard swingman would definitely help. He is a decent fallback option though.

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

I would really like to upgrade from Poke Chop, Berns. He was not good at all going down the stretch last year, and I remember him getting abused by Ziggy Hood at guard. He may have been hurt, but an upgrade for a tackle/guard swingman would definitely help. He is a decent fallback option though.

John Greco would be nice to look at. Not a premier FA but he's young and healthy and can play both RG and RT. He is always in shape and will work his ass off for you. He'll never be a star but you could plug him in and he wouldn't get your QB killed. He's a backup and he knows it. He could be had fairly cheap. Hard to find someone who accepts his role.

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

John Greco would be nice to look at. Not a premier FA but he's young and healthy and can play both RG and RT. He is always in shape and will work his ass off for you. He'll never be a star but you could plug him in and he wouldn't get your QB killed. He's a backup and he knows it. He could be had fairly cheap. Hard to find someone who accepts his role.

I like it, Ytown. I see he is a Boardman boy too. We need a guy who can swing in and out so Pinkston has time to grow and mature. Yates could swing inside and Greco in and out. I also like Trautwein as a potential player for both tackle spots. Seems like a good developmental guy, he is smart.

John Greco

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

John Greco

No. 79 St. Louis Rams
Offensive tackle Offensive_tackle
Personal information
Date of birth: March 24, 1985 (age 26)
Place of birth: Youngstown, Ohio
Height: 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)	Weight: 329 lb (149 kg)
Career information
College List_of_college_athletic_conferences_in_the_United_States : Toledo University_of_Toledo
NFL Draft National_Football_League_Draft : 2008 2008_NFL_Draft / Round: 3 / Pick: 65
Debuted in 2008 for the St. Louis Rams
Career history
St. Louis Rams (2008-present)
Roster status: Active
Career highlights and awards
3x All-MAC (2005, 2006, 2007)
Stats at NFL.com

John Patrick Greco (born March 24, 1985 in Youngstown, Ohio) is an

American football

American_football

player who plays

offensive tackle

Offensive_tackle

for the St. Louis Rams. He was a top guard prospect in the

2008 NFL Draft

2008_NFL_Draft

.^[1] He played

high school football

High_school_football

at Boardman High School in Youngstown.

Contents [hide] 1 High school 2 College 3 NFL 3.1 Pre-draft 3.2 St. Louis Rams 4 References 5 External links

[edit] High school

Greco was named First-team All-Conference and Second-team All-region as a senior and was Second-team All-Conference as a junior at Boardman High School in Youngstown, Ohio.
[edit] College

He was a three-time All-MAC honoree at left tackle. As a freshman, in 2004, he started at right tackle. In college, he allowed 6.5 sacks in two years. He started 36 games and recorded 275 knockdowns and 34 touchdown-resulting blocks during his three seasons at left tackle. In 2007 he started all 12 games for Toledo and earned First-team All-MAC for the third consecutive season and was a Third-team All-America by Rivals.com after allowing only three sacks on 411 pass plays. As a junior in 2006 he was the team co-captain started all 13 games at left tackle, earning First-team All-MAC honors. As a sophomore in 2005 Greco was First-team All-MAC in his first season at left tackle. He took over left tackle position after graduation of

Nick Kaczur

Nick_Kaczur

, now a starter with the

New England Patriots

New_England_Patriots

. He opened holes for an offense that ranked 13th in the nation in rushing (216.8 yards per game) and 10th in scoring (25.8 points per game). As a freshman in 2004 he started all 13 games at right tackle and earned the team's top freshman award. He redshirted as a true freshman in 2003.
[edit] NFL

[edit] Pre-draft

Pre-draft measureables
Ht	Wt	40-yard dash 40_yard_dash	10-yd split	20-yd split	20 ss 20_yard_shuttle	3-cone 3_cone_drill	Vert Vertical_jump	Broad	BP Bench_Press	Wonderlic Wonderlic
6-4¾ *	305 lb *	5.16 **	1.70 **	2.97 **	4.63 **	7.78 **	32 in.**	9'00" **	30 *	28 *

(* represents

NFL Combine

NFL_Combine

; **represents Toledo Pro Day)
Greco was one of the strongest offensive linemen in the

2008 NFL Draft

2008_NFL_Draft

. He bench presses 420 pounds and leg presses 1,050 pounds.
[edit] St. Louis Rams

He was selected 65th overall in the third round for the St. Louis Rams in the 2008 NFL Draft. On June 12, 2008, Greco signed a three-year, $1.794 million contract with the Rams, with the deal including a $644,000 signing bonus. He spent 2008 as a backup; due to injuries he started one game at the end of the

2008 NFL season

2008_NFL_season

.

[YtownBacker]

He'll always be a role player but he's a hell of a kid and strong as an ox. Might have some trouble with quick outside rushers but he'll work his ass off for ya.

Actually him and Vallos are friends and Shurmur is said to have loved his work ethic when he was with the Rams.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

This is the list, and I have bolded who I would like to keep.

I want to keep Dawson and Moore, but two first rounders will never happen or I would take it for Dawson, obviously. He's been a great Brown and I would like to keep him here with an extended contract along with Thomas and Hillis for sure. Nobody is going to give up a second for Moore, either.

I would like to move on from Poke Chop, he struggled even at guard down the stretch last year, but that is assuming we sign a suitable swing man at T/G. If we keep Yates around, he can backup at both G/C and is more than adequate, as he proved last year.

Robaire is a must, IMO. Still a good player and versatile, plus healthy. Would make a good vet swing man and mentor for the kids.

Ready to move on from Elam unless he wants to stay cheap as a backup. I thought he played pretty well last year, but he doesn't fit this scheme with Ward.

Alex Smith is a better fit for the actual TE role in this scheme, so Estandia is not necessary except for camp. Bell is gone, Piscitelli may be one of the worst pound for pound players in the league, Sorenson's time is up with Hagg here, Stuckey gone, Trusnik probably not a fit anymore, and Vickers we know is gone.

Wright gets a reprieve just for the fact we have needs, so perhaps he can light a fire under his ass and realize he is not a diva corner and never was. He can start by committing to tackling and playing better and more physical bump.
Browns free agents

• Unrestricted (Can sign with any team): RB Mike Bell; S Abe Elam; TE Greg Estandia; DE Jayme Mitchell; DB Sabby Piscitelli; DE Derreck Robinson; LB Matt Roth; DE Robaire Smith; DB Nick Sorensen; WR Chansi Stuckey; LB Jason Trusnik; FB Lawrence Vickers; G Floyd Womack; CB Eric Wright; G Billy Yates
• Restricted (Browns have right of first refusal, a team must surrender a draft pick depending on the tender): TE Evan Moore (2nd round tender)
• Franchise player (Browns have right of first refusal, a team must surrender two first-round picks): K Phil Dawson

Mitchell, Robinson and Robaire would be a loss of about 870 pounds to a dline that was already thin. Guess what we're doing REAL soon?

I'd like us to get Yates back; BUT UFA Chris Chester is listed as a G-C type as well with half the wear and tear.

[Enigmatic Evil]

I'm with you Riff, let's move on from Pork Chop if we can.

I would like to see us keep Jayme Mitchell, Robaire Smith, Stuckey (to at least compete during camp), Wright for depth, and Evan Moore...

I don't know really if there's anyone on that list though that makes me feel like we MUST keep them.

[Brown Warrior]

I think Womack's fate depends on whether the Browns can sign an upgrade free agent. OBR says they have one targeted.

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by Enigmatic Evil

I'm with you Riff, let's move on from Pork Chop if we can.

I would like to see us keep Jayme Mitchell, Robaire Smith, Stuckey (to at least compete during camp), Wright for depth, and Evan Moore...

I don't know really if there's anyone on that list though that makes me feel like we MUST keep them.

Wright and Mitchell are shopping their services around the league. Rob ryan is trying to get Wright to come to Dallas. The Browns have stated they aren't interested in resigning Stuckey.

Moore's pretty much a done deal. Smith said he wants to return. I'm really up in the air about Womack. I guess the question would be; can we get someone better in here?

[Brown Warrior]

Mitchell moving on makes sense if the Browns are closing in on Ray Edwards.

[mikeyP]

Jason Trusnik signing with Miami