Browns trade for Brodrick Bunkley

[mikeyP]

Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

Deleted an uncalled for post........carry on.

LOL.

Naww repost Vegas!!!

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

You know Mikey, for a guy trying to be a sports writer, take some advice from a guy who has been their. Sometimes you just got to chill and wait for things to unfold.

You need to get a bit of a thicker skin because everyone isn't going to agree with your articles or opinions. As for your cracks about the military, you weren't the only one to serve. Many on here served and I am a Viet Nam veteran. That doens't make me better then anyone or smarter then anyone. It sure doesn't make me smarter then Heckert.

As for football, we do have starters at every position. You may not like them but we have them. I think the solutionor actions will come from how much Heckert and the new coaching staff likes them. You list RT, RG, LB, DE, CB, WR. We have a starting RT in Pashos. What we need there is depth, just like we needed depth at DT. BTW word is they are talking about trying to get a tackle from the Rams. We have a starting RG and just signed his backup in Yates. We have 3 starting LBs in Jackson, Gocong and Fijita. What we need is depth because those three could be very good if they can stay healthy. Thus, a reason for depth. We just signed Mitchell and Bernard as DEs but we still need another DE. But, I would love to upgrade that position. We'll see what happens, FA isn't over yet. You can't force guys to come here. Money isn't what it's all about. Some guys want to go to winning teams. I agree we do need a CB but we do have two good starters. Again, depth and a guy to push Brown would be great. As for WR, we have depth and I will leave it at that.

Sometimes, you have to understand that you don't have all the answers because you don't even know all the questions. You talk about guys that are good football players but you have no clue if they are good fits for the Browns or would even entertain coming to the Browns. A lot of these FAs are trying to build a value and then resign with their original team. that's the game and a guy like Heckert knows the game. There's no use throwing money at a guy who doesn't want anything to do with Cleveland or the Browns.

Commenting on what a guy is doing before he has a chance to do it isn't good reporting.

Everybody is entitled to an opinion and you shouldn't attack them or call them names if it doesn't agree with yours.

Another outstanding post. Spot on and steel on target. Great post Y.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by Neo

Out of curiosity, what type of defense do the Texans run? 3-4 or 4-3?

I thought I heard they were switching back to a 3-4. One unvalidated rumor was they are considering seeing what Mario Williams can do from a standup position.

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by Neo

Out of curiosity, what type of defense do the Texans run? 3-4 or 4-3?

Wade Phillips

3-4

Haven't you heard they're switching Mario Williams to the OLB position?

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

Wade Phillips

3-4

Haven't you heard they're switching Mario Williams to the OLB position?

Sorry, I don't pay that much attention to other teams. But isn't Mario Williams almost like 300 pounds? Isn't that a little heavy for a linebacker?

[Brown Warrior]

Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

Great post RifferX. Shit all of us could bother to read this genius post above. Very good take my friend. Awesome!!!

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[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by Brown Warrior

Red Roof Inn. It's like $59. Spring for it.

I have something like 150,000 La Quinta points. It takes 8,000 to get a room.

[pl4tinum]

Originally Posted by Vegasdogg

All good teams have 1 things in common --- D E P T H.

Not to mention depth in the trenches.

[Legacy Fan]

Folks. Taylor is still holding out. So, officially, DTs of starting caliber currently practicing, we have..........

Tuba Rubin.

So it's depth (Good thing) and a FO push to pressure Taylor into signing (also good).

Relax.

[Brown Warrior]

So I'm clear: I like the Bunkley addition. We needed some depth there. It may turn out it was him instead of Robaire Smith. As he remembers how to play his position, the very athletic Brian Schaefering will be good, too. I like our DTs.

Hey, I liked the Greco deal, too. No real downside and he has some fans. He's versatile. It's possible he could end up the most viable backup at RT.

I like the Usama Young addition best of all. Very much the FS type for Jauron, great speed, great athlete, and we need that. I agreed with keeping Jayme Mitchell. I'm a little ambivalent on Jackson if Hardesty is healthy because your third RB doesn't see a ton of time.

What do I think we're missing? A serious DE with pass rush skills. We hope Jayme Mitchell can be that across from Sheard, but neither have proven anything. I think DE is the marquee position in a 4-3 and we could do better. Should we trade for Osi? At the right price, certainly not a first. I'd consider a second but I'm still not sure.

We absolutely need another corner and help at linebacker. I think we could use help at RT but there's not a ton out there. I would certainly love a veteran WR.

[Riffer X]

Steve D is actually questioning Rubin off this trade. I thought he was smarter than that:

Rep Blogs » Adding Bunkley raises questions about Ahtyba Rubin - Canton, OH - CantonRep.com

Adding Bunkley raises questions about Ahtyba Rubin

Jul 30th, 2011 @ 11:46 pm by Steve Doerschuk

Brodrick Bunkley was one of Tom Heckert’s draft disappointments in Philadelphia.
Now he’ll have a chance to be one of Heckert’s successes in Cleveland.
The No. 12, 13 and 14 picks of the 2006 draft were Haloti Ngata, Kamerion Wimbley and Bunkley.
Ngata is an All-Pro. Wimbley is a nice starter. Bunkley was a backup in Philadelphia’s 2010 defensive line rotation. He started five games.
He’ll count as a success in Cleveland if he plays 20 productive snaps a game or thereabouts. He needn’t do much to offset the modest price Heckert paid to bring him to Berea, a Round 5 pick in 2012.
One wonders whether adding Bunkley indicates that Heckert and Dick Jauron see Ahtyba Rubin as more a 3-4 nose man than a fit in the new 4-3. Or maybe it’s just a matter of wanting to go from hurting at tackle, as the team was before drafting Phil Taylor, to creating a strength, as could be the case with a Taylor-Rubin-Bunkley rotation. Bunkley is listed at 6-2, 306. He can’t be a 4-3 end.
Bunkley was a backup last year, but he played plenty in Heckert’s final three years as Eagles GM … starting 47 of 48 games.
One thing Bunkley has that Wimbley doesn’t … playoff experience. He has been in seven postseason games, including four starts in 2008 and ‘09.
• • •
The Browns made a lesser deal for John Greco, a Ravenna native (and ex-Toledo Rocket) who figures to be the swing tackle, backing up both Joe Thomas and Tony Pashos.
If Pashos doesn’t have a good camp, the 6-4, 329-pound Greco could be the No. 1 right tackle. There’s a chance he will get a test drive at guard, where depth is suspect.
Pat Shurmur was Greco’s offensive coordinator last season. Greco has appeared in 26 games (four starts) since getting drafted at No. 65 (Round 3) overall pick in 2008.
• • •
Tom Heckert for some reason or other thinks Jayme Mitchell will be a real player, even though Eric Mangini basically ignored him after he arrived in 2010.
Pat Shurmur now is talking about bringing back Mitchell as an answer at defensive end.
“That was a big signing,” Shurmur said today (as we hammer away just before midnight). “We feel like Jayme is a terrific pass rusher with a chance to be what a defensive end is in this league.”

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

Steve D is actually questioning Rubin off this trade. I thought he was smarter than that:

Agreed. I read this yesterday and thought "Steve wtf are you talking about?"