The Opener...

[Brown Warrior]

I'll be there. Who else?

We have problems, clearly. We're dinged. BUT... we might have a QB, which is what this league is all about.

Win one. Let's go, bitches.

[Sez.EJ]

Too far for me. I'll be in Arizona on Dec. 18th though. Should be a good one. The AZ stadium is Sweet!

[Crow]

Unfortunately, no. Would be fun to meet you there.

However, I am going to the Cleveland zoo today. Think I'll see Rich there flinging shit at the monkeys?

[Brown Warrior]

I just hope we have most of the full squad available (Massoquoi, Norwood, Gocong, both safeties). Clearly Steinbach will be out and be a huge blow, but I'd like to see all the rest of the team out there.

[Brown Warrior]

Here's a question: So there's a 33-year-old WR who's healthy. He didn't do anything last year but for the prior SIX YEARS he never had under 900 yards. Twice over 1,000.

He's a free agent. Totally available. Name's Houshmadilla or something like that.

What's the story there? Why is a guy like that suddenly unemployable? Is he NOT healthy, in fact?

EDIT: Both the Bears and Pats seem interested in signing him soon. I guess he's healthy. Weird.

[Sez.EJ]

He's lost his speed and step. Thus the fast dropoff.. sometimes guys just lose is super fast.. plenty of examples.. he's just another.

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by Sez.EJ

He's lost his speed and step. Thus the fast dropoff.. sometimes guys just lose is super fast.. plenty of examples.. he's just another.

Absolutely looked like an old man last year. Hell, teams looking for a WR liked Mason over him. People weren't knocking each other over all preseason to get him in to camp.

Would you really want to cut Norwood to bring in someone on his last leg? that's the guy who would be on the bubble, not Robiskie.

[Brown Warrior]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Absolutely looked like an old man last year. Hell, teams looking for a WR liked Mason over him. People weren't knocking each other over all preseason to get him in to camp.

Would you really want to cut Norwood to bring in someone on his last leg? that's the guy who would be on the bubble, not Robiskie.

No, don't really want him... just saw him on a list of well known free agents and wondered how a guy with the last of 6 straight 900 yard seasons could fall so far so fast.

Norwood has a better chance of being a Brown in 2012 than Robiskie, in my opinion. He fills Shurmur's slot role. Robiskie is in competition with Little, Massoquoi, Mitchell, and next year's #1 pick to play on the outside (!).

[grumpy_dinosaur]

Originally Posted by Brown Warrior

No, don't really want him... just saw him on a list of well known free agents and wondered how a guy with the last of 6 straight 900 yard seasons could fall so far so fast.

Norwood has a better chance of being a Brown in 2012 than Robiskie, in my opinion. He fills Shurmur's slot role. Robiskie is in competition with Little, Massoquoi, Mitchell, and next year's #1 pick to play on the outside (!).

It's because he went from that to a 400 yrd season and dropping key passes in the playoffs, easy way to drop your stock in a hurry.

[YtownBacker]

Housyourmama's best days are behind him and he will sit and play the waiting game like T O for an injury to a key WR on some team. Rebuilding teams with first year QBs don't need a 33 year old WR that will stunt the growth of our young receivers.

Like it or not, the bottom line, IMO, is Robiskie has made the team but will get pushed for reps by Mo, Little and Cribbs. May the best man play. That said, Moore, Little and Mo will be taking a lot of snaps in the slot.......................where does Norwood really fit in? He's a nice young "slot only" type receiver that will have to earn his playing time.

Robiskie, again like him or not, has shown enough to the offensive staff to continue to be the leading outside receiver on the team. Now, once everyone gets healthy, that could change. But, for now Norwood or Mitchell don't seem to be able to take reps away from Robiskie. As a matter of fact neither has showed up in games or proven they can compete against NFL starters. Some people look great in shorts or practice but it's game time now. Let's see what you got..........................

Teams can't put their #1 corner against all of our guys so I have hope. Between a super TE group and RBs who can cause problems for LB or a safety their will be mismatches and single coverage on our WRs. With a stout OL and a accurate QB our offense should be fine.

[Brown Warrior]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Housyourmama's best days are behind him and he will sit and play the waiting game like T O for an injury to a key WR on some team. Rebuilding teams with first year QBs don't need a 33 year old WR that will stunt the growth of our young receivers.

I don't want the Browns to sign Houshmadilla. I just said that!!

[Brown Warrior]

On Robiskie: He's not the leading anything on any team, Y. He's shown shit in his entire career. I have no idea what you're seeing!! If not for injuries, I believe he would've been cut or traded for a low pick.

Norwood is faster, quicker, and gets separation, according to Shurmur himself. But Robiskie's Santeria consultant got him, too.

Look, you know me: Robiskie starts looking like an NFL WR in actual games? I'll be the first to admit it, buy his jersey, and start his fan club. I have zero problems changing my mind, especially when it benefits my bizarre, logo-less obsession.