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I wouldn't DREAM of buying a plane ticket and paying a couple hundred bucks a ticket to watch Jake Delhomme throw to Chansi Stuckey and Mo Massoquoi. Has to be the worst battery in the NFL by miles.

Clearly, we have the worst offensive skill personnel in the entire league... and I don't think you'll find anybody to dispute that.

So... what are we gonna do? I keep hearing we'll continue to not address is in the first round. There's nothing to do in free agency, I guess. We don't have a serious Top 10-15 type QB and don't seem to be looking to get one.

What's the plan? How are we planning to build a 21st Century offense that can put up 400 yards or so in most weeks? Complete 65 percent of our passes for 4,000 yards and 30 TDs?

Right now, I'm way farging bored with our offseason. I think if/when we add Sims to Pashos, we have a pretty good offensive line. That's about all I can say. We probably rate 32nd at QB and 32nd at WR. INC at RB, or 25th.

We won't be able to score. It'll be unwatchable. I just don't see how we address it with mid-round picks.
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With the addition of Peyton Hillis, I think our run attack will be excellent. Did you even watch the last 4 games last year? Plus, Robiskie will be improved, and just the mere fact that Robert Royal and John St. Clair won't be anywhere near the field upgrades our offense immensely.

With Ben Watson on board, I think we definitely need some more talent at receiver, and we'll be in decent shape. Jacoby Ford's a burner and might fit the bill.
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Shep, you are operating under the assumption that MoMass and Robo will play EXACTLY like they did in 09 with NO IMPROVEMENT whatsoever. You cannot think like this. We will add another target or two for JDH, but I think we're gonna be running the ball....a lot....
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With the addition of Peyton Hillis, I think our run attack will be excellent. Did you even watch the last 4 games last year? Plus, Robiskie will be improved, and just the mere fact that Robert Royal and John St. Clair won't be anywhere near the field upgrades our offense immensely.

With Ben Watson on board, I think we definitely need some more talent at receiver, and we'll be in decent shape. Jacoby Ford's a burner and might fit the bill.
I have been TWEETED alot, that the Browns are STILL actively scouting more Running Backs & Wide Receivers. Just FYI.
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What's the plan? How are we planning to build a 21st Century offense that can put up 400 yards or so in most weeks? Complete 65 percent of our passes for 4,000 yards and 30 TDs?
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We're not done yet. We have a draft to get through. I guess you'll have to wait until we get down to the 53 man roster to know what we are going to be.
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WR's are notorious for 'getting it' in the 2nd or 3rd year...so despite your hand wringing, the fact is the Browns had 2 true rookies (MoMass/Robo), 2 guys starting for the first time (Cribbs/Stuckey) and one vet who was playing S half the time (Furrey).

This means that there is a HIGH PROBABILITY that the group of WR's we currently have are going to make some pretty significant strides this year.

Add into this the fact that both Wallace and Delhomme are more accurate/consistent than what we had behind center last year...and the WR's will actually have the ability to KNOW when and where to be without worrying if the pass will be somewhere else.

In addition, we have SIGNIFICANTLY upgraded the TE position. Royal (Mr. Drop) and Heiden (oft injured) are replaced with Watson (1st rd) and Moore (looked promising). This too will take a lot of heat off of the WR and QB.

Then, if you add the signing of Pashos and the replacement of Lewis at RB with younger, faster, hungrier guys...and this offense may just surprise you (with or without the big splash you ask for).

I have a feeling we will see a QB of some value come in to be groomed. We will also likely see another OL get drafted in 4-5 rds. I would not be surprised to see us take a shot at a total speedster WR bottom of 1st or top of 2nd (via trade if necessary) like Golden Tate or Benn or even Gilyard.

Still, to belittle the upgrade of key positions like RT and TE as not even being a start...not sure I get it.
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I wouldn't DREAM of buying a plane ticket and paying a couple hundred bucks a ticket to watch Jake Delhomme throw to Chansi Stuckey and Mo Massoquoi. Has to be the worst battery in the NFL by miles.

Clearly, we have the worst offensive skill personnel in the entire league... and I don't think you'll find anybody to dispute that.

We won't be able to score. It'll be unwatchable. I just don't see how we address it with mid-round picks.
Well you don't have to fly all the way out here to see a bad offense just go up the coast and watch Oakland. I'd bet there fans might challenge you on the "worst battery in the NFL by miles".

So, Chicken Little, you expected the super bowl in one offseason. We haven't even finished FA or had the draft yet and you are already sticking a pin in the balloon. Man, WTF the team hasn't had a practice or OTA. So much for rookies grow the most between their first and second years.
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Shep may be excitable, but he ain't wrong. We lack elite talent on offense. We have Joe Thomas and ...Joe Thomas. This is not going to be a good team. Again.
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Browns | Holmgren may meet with several QB before draft
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Tony Grossi, of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, reports Cleveland Browns president Mike Holmgren said he may meet with four or five quarterback prospects before the 2010 NFL Draft

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Shep may be excitable, but he ain't wrong. We lack elite talent on offense. We have Joe Thomas and ...Joe Thomas. This is not going to be a good team. Again.
So you are saying fuck the draft and mail it in already for the year.

The negitivity is unbelievable here sometimes.
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So, Chicken Little, you expected the super bowl in one offseason. We haven't even finished FA or had the draft yet and you are already sticking a pin in the balloon. Man, WTF the team hasn't had a practice or OTA. So much for rookies grow the most between their first and second years.
I think Shep expects to have a product that is worth spending a not-insignificant amount of money on. I happen to agree with him.

Shep, what are you worried about? Delhomme's last season was just a bad season, that's all. The Panthers REALLY don't know what they gave up. What a bunch of maroons!
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So you are saying fuck the draft and mail it in already for the year.

The negitivity is unbelievable here sometimes.
Are you expecting rookies to come in and add to our astounding win total of 5?

I've seen arguments that rookies don't contribute, now you think they'll make significant contributions.

Which is it? I'm getting confused with all these conflicting accounts.
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