Agent For Peyton Hillis Tells AP That He Advised Him To Sit Out Dolphins Game

[YtownBacker]

If the guy goes out and has a big game Sunday everyone will be saying...........pay the man.

Just how fans are.

[hiwaygal]

I'm torn on this...obviously 'cause I like Hillis. But also because I think a mountain is being made of a mole-hill because of agents posturing to the media and the media dogging the players (trying to create drama). Add to that some frustration with the FO in the past with Cribbs, and a few others (were there others??), and a general kind of "wtf" with the new OC and staff (expectations were high) and you get a situation where the right kind of drama will sell papers and get Browns fans emotions running high and well, sell papers and get people talking.

Veg, I get where you are coming from and to some extent I agree but, as Y-town said if you know what your earning power is and just how limited it is (and maybe even moreseo because of how Hillis plays) he has to think of himself and his future too. Can't say I blame him for that either, know what I mean?


(if any of this post gets weird or something - blame the post surgical buzz lol)

[golfer704u]

Well also, it comes down to how invested you are in the current FO also. or the player involved. If you've basically become a shill for the front office and believe they can do little wrong. then you'll read stories like the Hillis one and infer between the lines that he's bitching and whining.

if you're not, and especially if you like hillis, you might read those same comments and see nothing particularly whiny, and a guy just saying as much truth as he can when he feels he deserves to be paid more.

I don't even blame Shurmur much for this. these things are usually media created controversies that aren't even there. Remember the frenzy when Cribbs contract was up? what happened? Cribbs went on ESPN and other places in an effort to leverage himself more money. No one called him whiny, and the team and player eventually settled and everyones happy.

[hiwaygal]

I don't think Shurmur is to blame either - he's not responsible for the contracts. Isn't that Heckert and Holmgren's job?

[Brown Warrior]

I think Hillis is an unusual talent, a big power back with terrific hands... and he can do a lot in this offense. I do want to "pay the man," but it has to be based in the realities of the present: It's a short-term position and most top teams are getting buy with platoons and relative bargains.

"Fair" probably lies somewhere in between. But I'd really, really hate to lose him.

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

The man goes out and plays football. Like Shurmur said yesterday to the press, "I'm tired of answering questions about this, it's a non-issue".

If you can pay a "Special Teamer" who outplayed his contract then you should pay Hillis. That said, there's a limit on years and guaranteed money that shouldn't be crossed. But $600,000, really.

When you know that your earning power is limited to just a few years and it's get it now while you can time, is this any worse then Cribbs talking shit a few years ago. It's called posturing and I didn't like it from Cribbs and I don't like it from Hillis................but I understand it.

[OzDawg]

I think it's all posturing with one exception.

I think the media and his agent are the ones doing all the posturing.
Hillis just doesn't seem the type to "expect" top dollar, I think he knows what he's worth( he's even been traded by a team who "knew " his worth)

the one exception is a statement Hillis supposedly made:
"Whenever something's not set in stone, then I guess anything is possible, which means your career's not here," he said. "So, yeah, that definitely worries me."

the line " which means your career's not here"..
Guy has said he thinks he and Cleveland are are made for each other, hopefully the FO will give him fair money( and yes I think posturing is why he's fired two agents)

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by OzDawg

I think it's all posturing with one exception.

I think the media and his agent are the ones doing all the posturing.
Hillis just doesn't seem the type to "expect" top dollar, I think he knows what he's worth( he's even been traded by a team who "knew " his worth)

the one exception is a statement Hillis supposedly made:
"Whenever something's not set in stone, then I guess anything is possible, which means your career's not here," he said. "So, yeah, that definitely worries me."

the line " which means your career's not here"..
Guy has said he thinks he and Cleveland are are made for each other, hopefully the FO will give him fair money( and yes I think posturing is why he's fired two agents)

Cribbs cleaned out his locker and said he's played his last game as a Brown. That is posturing. Hillis has only said he'd like to be here but you never know how it will work out. You can read a lot into that or say the man is just being real.

That said, we don't even have a clue what his agent has put on the table as a asking price, number of years or how much guaranteed. So, our opinions are based on speculation.

[Vegasdogg]

Cribbs produced beyond one season. And he had years left on a contract that was recently renewed. What if Peyton is asking for a 5 year deal with too much guaranteed money? What if he wants "NFL starting RB"' money that had the market set by AP and CJ?

I'm of the impression that Peyton's agent is holding up the contract.