We had no buisness winning the Seattle game.

[Neo]

Nah. I love it when that's all I have to say, and nobody can really argue. Can't wait to see all the posts calling me a hater for this.

[BrownieBornAndRaised]

I wouldn't call you a hater. We got lucky that Seattle is worse off than we are. Neither team deserved to win this game... But when we look back a win is a win. It doesn't matter if we win by 3 or by 43. Showing dominance or showing ineptitude... Its a tally in the W column and that is what its all about.

[DeadWombat]

Yes, I agree we had no business winning that game.

But here's the kicker: neither did they.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by BrownieBornAndRaised

I wouldn't call you a hater. We got lucky that Seattle is worse off than we are. Neither team deserved to win this game... But when we look back a win is a win. It doesn't matter if we win by 3 or by 43. Showing dominance or showing ineptitude... Its a tally in the W column and that is what its all about.

Actually it does matter. What do you think the score would have been if we played the Packers, or the Patriots with that kind of effort yesterday? Why do you think New Orleans put it on the Colts yesterday? To show how dominant they are and to instill fear into other teams that still have to play them.Point is, if we were really better than Seattle, then we should have made it clear. Isn't that the topic that has been floating around here lately? That the reason teams are stacking the box against us is because they don't fear our passing offense? It may be a win in the win column, but that kind of play isn't going to take us anywhere. And wouldn't you feel better as a fan knowing your team just destroyed someone?

[Riffer X]

Something to keep in mind is that Seattle just beat the Giants 36-25 a few weeks back.

Things are never as bad or good as they seem and the same goes for teams. I still recall the absurd predictions of how bad the Bengals were going to be this year before week one, it was real amateur crap from a lot of supposed experts.

[NW Ohio Brownie]

The Browns had no business winning the Miami game. They flat-out stunk right up until the 2-minute drill in that one.

I beg to differ about yesterday's game. Yes, it appears the Seahawks got jobbed on the called-back TD return, but their offense was doing absolutely nothing yesterday.

It was no fluke that they scored just 3 points. The Browns' D did what they were supposed to: shut down a short-handed NFL offense.

But to say a team that controlled the ball for 2/3 of the contest didn't deserve to win is stretching it a bit. No question, though, that we will get rolled the next two weeks if we continue to suck out of the gate in each half.

[Neo]

Seattle got hosed with that call on the kick return by Washington. The Browns tried everything to give that game away but still ended up winning. This team is in sad shape right now

[Neo]

Originally Posted by NW Ohio Brownie

The Browns had no business winning the Miami game. They flat-out stunk right up until the 2-minute drill in that one.

I beg to differ about yesterday's game. Yes, it appears the Seahawks got jobbed on the called-back TD return, but their offense was doing absolutely nothing yesterday.

It was no fluke that they scored just 3 points. The Browns' D did what they were supposed to: shut down a short-handed NFL offense.

But to say a team that controlled the ball for 2/3 of the contest didn't deserve to win is stretching it a bit. No question, though, that we will get rolled the next two weeks if we continue to suck out of the gate in each half.

What about the two blocked field goals? And our inability to get first downs in a critical part of the game? Like after Sheldon Brown's interception, we give it right back because our pee-wee offense can't even get 10 yards.

[Thaid_Up]

Originally Posted by NW Ohio Brownie

The Browns had no business winning the Miami game. They flat-out stunk right up until the 2-minute drill in that one.

I beg to differ about yesterday's game. Yes, it appears the Seahawks got jobbed on the called-back TD return, but their offense was doing absolutely nothing yesterday.

It was no fluke that they scored just 3 points. The Browns' D did what they were supposed to: shut down a short-handed NFL offense.

But to say a team that controlled the ball for 2/3 of the contest didn't deserve to win is stretching it a bit. No question, though, that we will get rolled the next two weeks if we continue to suck out of the gate in each half.

Nice call Brownie. And yes I agree we'll get to see two good, intact teams in the next couple weeks. I think we're all just waiting for this team to come together and play a complete game. Better be sooner than later.

Neo you're a hater

[Neo]

Originally Posted by Thaid_Up

Neo you're a hater

I'm sure there will be plenty more where that came from. I don't care. Bring it on!

[NW Ohio Brownie]

Originally Posted by Neo

What about the two blocked field goals? And our inability to get first downs in a critical part of the game? Like after Sheldon Brown's interception, we give it right back because our pee-wee offense can't even get 10 yards.

Those are all good examples of how this team continues to spin its tires. I am just as frustrated with the evident lack of improvement from week to week.

However, I don't agree that Seattle should have won that game yesterday. It wasn't like the Seahawks were dominating out there and moving the ball up and down the field with nothing to show for it. They had 1, count it, 1 legitimate trip into Browns' territory yesterday.

The Miami game, which I cited earlier, was an example of a Browns' win that was wholly undeserved. Henne was having his way through the first three quarters, the Browns' O was going nowhere, and the Dolphins were constantly one big play away from blowing the game open. They let the Browns hang around and paid for it at the end.

But, I am sure as hell not satisfied with that showing yesterday, either.

[Neo]

Originally Posted by NW Ohio Brownie

However, I don't agree that Seattle should have won that game yesterday

If that was a Cribbs return that got nullified and ended up costing us the game, everybody would be screaming bloody murder and saying that we should have won that game. Would you still have that point of view if the circumstances were different? I want our team to win games, but not like that.