Shep's Quarterback Obsession Draft Thread

[Shep]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Tom, Vick was on the field as a change of pace (wildcat option). If McNabb got injured Vick would still be a wildcat option and Kolb would be starting. The problem they hve in Philly is that they don't want to give McNabb a contract extension because they want to go with Kolb. But Kolb won't sign an extension until he sees what they are going to do with Vick. So, with that you have two QBs in the final year of their contracts and a team looking for a solution.

Yeah, I think it's pretty clear that the Eagles don't see Vick as the next best QB on their roster. They clearly believe Kolb is their future.

But if someone threw a bunch of #1s at them, they could find another future. Reid and McNabb are buddies, so I think it's gonna be really hard to chase him out of town. I think it only happens if Favre decides not to play.

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by Shep

Yeah, I think it's pretty clear that the Eagles don't see Vick as the next best QB on their roster. They clearly believe Kolb is their future.

But if someone threw a bunch of #1s at them, they could find another future. Reid and McNabb are buddies, so I think it's gonna be really hard to chase him out of town. I think it only happens if Favre decides not to play.

They just had Reid on ESPN and he said McNabb is #1 and Kolb is #2, just one play from being the starter. He then said Vick is their #3 guy.

He talked about having 3 guys (franchise QBs) who could start and win in the NFL. It seemed like he was saying that for the right offer you could take one home. then they will draft another guy to develop. Most think it is McNabb that they are trying to trade but McNabb won't sign a long term contract extension unless he likes the situation he is going to. He has no interest in going to a rebuilding team. Rumors are he has said no to signing an extension if traded to Buffalo, Oakland, Jax and Cleveland. Minn. would interest him.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Tom, Vick was on the field as a change of pace (wildcat option). If McNabb got injured Vick would still be a wildcat option and Kolb would be starting. The problem they hve in Philly is that they don't want to give McNabb a contract extension because they want to go with Kolb. But Kolb won't sign an extension until he sees what they are going to do with Vick. So, with that you have two QBs in the final year of their contracts and a team looking for a solution.

Good points! It makes alot of sense. Although the last time I saw Vick he threw a 53 yard rope for a TD that was dead money to a receiver in stride.

I STILL think we should try to sell Philly on letting Kolb go for for an All Pro dlinemen they so desperately need and a LBer in Jackson that I've heard they would like. AGAIN, they're not STOPPING opponents when they've been getting to the playoffs and they're also not going to stay this close to being a potential champion. Our sale should be the window is open today and we have the firepower for that defense of your's to take you to that previously unattainable level.

I'll bet they dick around with McNabb for at least another year so Kolb ain't playing anyway which opens up the door for them to draft one of the promising QBs this year. They also sport the luxury of having Vick who led his team to an NFC Championship appearance vrs Philly. It's not like Vick wasn't a top 5 pick overall right? Also, it's not like Philly let him get away either so they have more plans than using him the way we use Cribbs. He's had zero wear and tear, which makes him younger than his age football wise.

Last but not least, don't think for a second Philly won't play-up how wonderful they perceive Kolb as and how important he is to their future. They feel it's gonna sweeten the deal. I'm just saying regardless of reason why - once Vick came off suspension, the only QB not named McNabb to see the field was Vick. Heckert is WELL aware of this and he knows they're playing poker. If we give them their missing links to finishing the job in the post season - they'll realize there's going to be equivalent QB prospects in the next 3 years while they're docey-doeing McNabb and Vick on game day. In fact, if we gave them our 7th overall pick - what's to say they wouldn't draft Clausen and get their QB hope for the future right back? They didn't draft Kolb until round 2 so I don't think they feel he as THAT unreplaceable as they want to present it for trade leverage. It was Vick that is a top 5 pick hanging around at garage sale prices. We need to play that reality up considerably if we want to pull this trade off. Heckert looks like he can sell pit bulls to cat lovers.
- Tom F.

[Shep]

Tom, I agree that both teams would be better off. The Eagles are in the mix right now. They're window is wide open. Seems an odd time to switch quarterbacks when McNabb is all of 33.

Let's give them Rogers and the 38.

[Rich4eagle]

Originally Posted by Shep

Tom, I agree that both teams would be better off. The Eagles are in the mix right now. They're window is wide open. Seems an odd time to switch quarterbacks when McNabb is all of 33.

Let's give them Rogers and the 38.

like anyone but browns fans think rogers is worth anything...........now that is funny






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[Shep]

Unlike The Fever, it sounds like Canfield had a very nice pro day:

03/18/10 - PRO DAY RESULTS: Quarterback Sean Canfield, who showed off his mobility at the NFL Scouting combine, demonstrated his arm strength at Oregon State’s pro day on March 12. Canfield (6-foot-3 3/4, 224 pounds) stood on the results in each discipline from the combine, but impressed scouts with his throwing ability, including his accuracy on deep out routes. Twenty NFL team representatives, including Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski, evaluated Canfield and 10 other former Oregon State players indoors on FieldTurf. – Gil Brandt, NFL.com

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by Shep

Unlike The Fever, it sounds like Canfield had a very nice pro day:

03/18/10 - PRO DAY RESULTS: Quarterback Sean Canfield, who showed off his mobility at the NFL Scouting combine, demonstrated his arm strength at Oregon State’s pro day on March 12. Canfield (6-foot-3 3/4, 224 pounds) stood on the results in each discipline from the combine, but impressed scouts with his throwing ability, including his accuracy on deep out routes. Twenty NFL team representatives, including Bengals offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski, evaluated Canfield and 10 other former Oregon State players indoors on FieldTurf. – Gil Brandt, NFL.com

Canfield needed that because he looked awful at the Indy combines. The Oregon State pedigree makes me nervous. When DA was our QB our passing game should have been called the panic attack.
- Tom F.

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by Flugel

Canfield needed that because he looked awful at the Indy combines. The Oregon State pedigree makes me nervous. When DA was our QB our passing game should have been called the panic attack.
- Tom F.

He looked pretty bad at the senior bowl also. One scripted workout won't wash all that away.

[Shep]

Canfield really struggled through draft season. The workout might get him drafted... but he's stuck in 6th-ish, I think.