Lombardi: Browns are legendary in their predictablility

[damajuki]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

I just want to see one shotgun formation this year.

Just one.

No, Leg, that's not allowed. That would fall under the category of "innovation" or perhaps "making Colt more comfortable" neither of which is allowed or helpful.

Man, you pie-in-the-sky'ers really just don't get it.

WEST COAST OFFENSE.

3 YARD SLANT AND A CLOUD OF DUST.

Catch. The. Fever.

[damajuki]

Originally Posted by Greythan

Before we spiral too far out of control, let's not start any talk of blowing things up mid year.

It looks like complete crap right now, that's a fact.

We also have half a season left to play.

Let's continue to be constructively critical (or hell, no so constructively if you prefer: we're fans after all) but save the real analysis until after we've played our 16th game. I hope like hell I'm feeling different about Shurmur and crew at that time. Its pretty dark right now.

Other than the coach, what exactly is even worth blowing up?

There are very few players worth a damn on the field so you could just let them go on with their lives and careers, I suppose. It would be the right thing to do to just release outright as soon as possible.

Let me do a Shep'ian list of who should be paroled first, in order of importance and Browns indentured servitude:

Thomas
Cribbs
DQJ
Mack
Haden
Hillis
Fujita
Watson
Moore
Ward
The rookies

That's about right.

Just let them all go and then dissolve the front office. That should do it. Like a nice building implosion, nothing left but a large cloud of dust over Berea.

Oh, wait. Sorry. This is what you didn't want me to do?

Oops.

[Masters]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

I just want to see one shotgun formation this year.


Just one.

There has been multiple shot gun formations in every game this year.

[pl4tinum]

Was gonna say, I saw at least one shotgun snap this week. Colt looked way more comfortable in it, too. Not surprising.

[Masters]

The thing is shot gun isn't going to fix the O. It won't resolve the RT and both G's letting pressure get right through. It won't fix the run game and will actually make teams respect the run even less (if that is possible). It also won't make Little run the right routes or MoMass be able to be on the field.

[hiwaygal]

Originally Posted by Masters

The thing is shot gun isn't going to fix the O. It won't resolve the RT and both G's letting pressure get right through. It won't fix the run game and will actually make teams respect the run even less (if that is possible). It also won't make Little run the right routes or MoMass be able to be on the field.

No, but none of the other stuff we're doing is helping any of that either. And at least the shotgun seems to be more comfortable (and maybe a little safer) for our QB. God forbid if we have to watch Seneca Wallace behind this OL (or that other guy...what's his name???)

[Masters]

Originally Posted by hiwaygal

No, but none of the other stuff we're doing is helping any of that either. And at least the shotgun seems to be more comfortable (and maybe a little safer) for our QB. God forbid if we have to watch Seneca Wallace behind this OL (or that other guy...what's his name???)

I don't think it makes Colt any more safe at this point. I have seen him get killed in the gun as well thanks to the lack of blocking (I could be mistaken but I think when Colt got knocked out of his shoes on the late completion to Little he was in the gun).

The other stuff they are still continuing to do at least keeps with the training and learning of the O they want to run, in theory. They should be getting something out of it, even if it's only education (I know, we don't want to watch that, but it is what it is). That includes Colt who has to play from under center to have any possible success in the NFL.

To me it comes down to what do you actually gain by playing more out of the gun vs. what do you lose out on. From what I see, it looks like a wash at best.

[Legacy Fan]

Originally Posted by Thaid_Up

The idea of getting rid of Cribbs is absurd. Easily the best player on this team. I don't give a rat's a** about the so called reasons to unload him. Getting old? Show me where he's slowing down. Don't care if he's speaking out. Somebody has to. His importance to this team is blatantly obvious and dispite his "unpolished" receiver skills he will give you 100% every play and is absolutely worth his WR spot.

+30ish (hopefully)

[Legacy Fan]

Originally Posted by Masters

There has been multiple shot gun formations in every game this year.

Yes. 3-ish constitutes "multiple." Technically.

[Masters]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

Yes. 3-ish constitutes "multiple." Technically.

It's been more than 3 a game.

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by Masters

It's been more than 3 a game.

how many times when it wasn't 3rd and forever?

[Masters]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

how many times when it wasn't 3rd and forever?

You'd really have to be more specific

I have seen it this season several times on 3rd and 3 or 4 to go (which made me want to pull my hair out). I have seen it on 2nd an 8, third and about anything over 7 (maybe that is forever) and a ton in the 2 minute drill regardless of down and distance.

I am sooner with you on more screens (at least to try and slow the rush even if for a series) than more gun as the answer.