The Ballad of Gil/Eddie Haskell

[Riffer X]

Does anybody know what kind of coin this guy is making and exactly what role he has with this team right now? I can't dig anything up on his contract status but my gut says it is pretty damn nice if I remember correctly. What exactly does he advise on? Is he happy with the "7 yard curl and cloud of deflected pass dust" that Shurms calls each play?

I know guys like Ytown were big advocates of this guy, but I see nothing but a guy collecting a paycheck on Randy's dime and kicking back. What could this guy possibly be doing to deserve his contract, whatever it is?

Thoughts?


Cleveland Browns name Gil Haskell senior adviser to Mike Holmgren | cleveland.com

For 15 of the 17 seasons that Browns President Mike Holmgren coached Green Bay and Seattle, one of his closest assistant coaches was Gil Haskell. Now Holmgren is bringing Haskell to Cleveland. Haskell, 66, was named senior adviser to the president by Holmgren.
The move was first reported in The Plain Dealer on Jan. 31.
Haskell was offensive coordinator under Holmgren for nine seasons in Seattle, doubling as assistant head coach the last two. In Green Bay, Haskell coached running backs and then receivers.
Haskell left Holmgren for two years to serve as offensive coordinator of Carolina in 1998-99.
In their announcement, the Browns did not elaborate on Haskell's specific responsbilities as senior adviser. It is believed that one will be to assist in the evaluation of the Browns offense.

[golfer704u]

It's really simple Riff,

he WAS hired to help evaluate the offense, the players. However when he realized the problem with the offense is the guy calling the plays that is Holmgren's boy, what can Haskel say? He can't come out publically with the truth. so he starts to fade into the background and collect a check.

[hiwaygal]

It would definitely be interesting to hear what others think (or know?) about Mr. Haskell.

But, he is not the only "Senior Advisor to the President" on the team. The other guy is an attorney who apparently was nominated as a candidate for Commissioner. Anyway, as an attorney, no one is going to fire him! LOL

Part of me says he wasn't supposed to be involved in the actual TEAM issues (that's the responsibility of the coaching staff) but is somehow supposed involved in the business side of it all.

All I know is, when I look at the pictures of the guys on our coaching staff, all I can think is: goober, goober, WEIRD!, goober, wtf?, ewww, perv, goober, flake, ewww, etc. etc. etc.

[King of Kings]

I've been asking those questions for months Riff, not even Holmgrens biggest fanboys are able to tell me why Haskell is making a 7 figure salary or what he does to earn it.

[Enigmatic Evil]

The more I think about Haskell's roll on the team (I recall he earns a pretty big pay check, something like 6 Mill? I can't confirm this though, a quick Google search reveals his page on the ClevelandBrowns.com website:

Originally Posted by Cleveland Browns.com

Gil Haskell is in his second season with the Browns, having been named Senior Advisor to the President on February 10, 2010.

Haskell owns a wealth of football knowledge, having coached on both the collegiate and professional levels for more than 30 years. Prior to joining the Browns, he spent nine seasons with the Seattle Seahawks (2000-08), with his first seven campaigns as offensive coordinator (2000-06) and the final two as assistant head coach/offensive coordinator (2007-08). In 2005, the Seahawks finished the season ranked second in total offense as they advanced to Super Bowl XL. During Haskell’s tenure in Seattle, the Seahawks captured four NFC West titles (2004-07) and advanced to the postseason five consecutive times (2003-07). In addition, quarterback Matt Hasselbeck was selected to the Pro Bowl on three occasions as he posted a record of 58-45 as a starter.

Furthermore, Cleveland.com has this to say in regards to Haskell:

Originally Posted by Cleveland.com

For 15 of the 17 seasons that Browns President Mike Holmgren coached Green Bay and Seattle, one of his closest assistant coaches was Gil Haskell. Now Holmgren is bringing Haskell to Cleveland.

Haskell, 66, was named senior adviser to the president by Holmgren.


The move was first reported in The Plain Dealer on Jan. 31.


Haskell was offensive coordinator under Holmgren for nine seasons in Seattle, doubling as assistant head coach the last two. In Green Bay, Haskell coached running backs and then receivers.


Haskell left Holmgren for two years to serve as offensive coordinator of Carolina in 1998-99.


In their announcement, the Browns did not elaborate on Haskell's specific responsbilities as senior adviser. It is believed that one will be to assist in the evaluation of the Browns offense.



• Browns left tackle Joe Thomas has selected Collinwood High School and East Tech High School to each receive a $1,500 grant for football equipment.



Thomas earned the grant by being a member of the inaugural USA Football/NFLPA All-Fundamentals Team announced in December.



Thomas will personally deliver the equipment and meet with coaches and player on Thursday.

Other than those, and some blogs that show quotes, nothing dating more current than this pre-season. It tells me he was brought here to be an evaluator, or at least, that's what 'they want us to know'... The REAL question in my mind, is Randy Lerner, the guy singing the checks, asking these questions. It's one thing to not be a 'football mind' but business is business and you need to be on top of things. I find it hard to believe Lerner's just passing out million dollar paychecks to a guy whose roll he doesn't understand, I really freaking hope that he has more sense than that...

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by Enigmatic Evil

Quote: Originally Posted by Cleveland.com For 15 of the 17 seasons that Browns President Mike Holmgren coached Green Bay and Seattle, one of his closest assistant coaches was Gil Haskell. Now Holmgren is bringing Haskell to Cleveland. Haskell, 66, was named senior adviser to the president by Holmgren. The move was first reported in The Plain Dealer on Jan. 31. Haskell was offensive coordinator under Holmgren for nine seasons in Seattle, doubling as assistant head coach the last two. In Green Bay, Haskell coached running backs and then receivers. Haskell left Holmgren for two years to serve as offensive coordinator of Carolina in 1998-99. In their announcement, the Browns did not elaborate on Haskell's specific responsbilities as senior adviser. It is believed that one will be to assist in the evaluation of the Browns offense. • Browns left tackle Joe Thomas has selected Collinwood High School and East Tech High School to each receive a $1,500 grant for football equipment. Thomas earned the grant by being a member of the inaugural USA Football/NFLPA All-Fundamentals Team announced in December. Thomas will personally deliver the equipment and meet with coaches and player on Thursday.

I posted this in the OP, but putting it up here again reiterates that even when he was hired there was no official explanation of what his job duties will be.

[hiwaygal]

Homlgren's coffee fetcher?

[Brown Warrior]

I don't think any of us know (yet) how much of Shurmur's playcalling or system are the result of bad personnel decisions made by "H3," but I think there have been many, especially on offense and especially-especially as it pertains to passing the football and scoring points.

We could've done a couple little things in free agency -- like James Jones and one of the many young RTs we talked about -- that might have made a big difference. We could've drafted Julio Jones. We could've traded up those three spots to get Corey Peters and skipped Colt McCoy, which was Plan A all along. We could've done SOMETHING other than Jake Delhomme, which ended up just as nutty as it looked at the time. We could've started the inevitable transition to the WCO the year BEFORE the inevitable strike.

We could've skipped pretending like Robiskie and Massoquoi were starting NFL WRs and dug deep to find better ones. We could've drafted a lineman in the last draft higher than round 5. We could've done more in free agency in general.

I was HUGELY into bringing in Holmgren and Heckert, so no mommy issues, no agenda... I just think they've been pretty bad so far. I simply don't know how to judge Shurmur with no running backs, no WRs, no arm at QB, and a left guard who's really, really sucking bad after we lost a good one.

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by Brown Warrior

I don't think any of us know (yet) how much of Shurmur's playcalling or system are the result of bad personnel decisions made by "H3," but I think there have been many, especially on offense and especially-especially as it pertains to passing the football and scoring points.

We could've done a couple little things in free agency -- like James Jones and one of the many young RTs we talked about -- that might have made a big difference. We could've drafted Julio Jones. We could've traded up those three spots to get Corey Peters and skipped Colt McCoy, which was Plan A all along. We could've done SOMETHING other than Jake Delhomme, which ended up just as nutty as it looked at the time. We could've started the inevitable transition to the WCO the year BEFORE the inevitable strike.

We could've skipped pretending like Robiskie and Massoquoi were starting NFL WRs and dug deep to find better ones. We could've drafted a lineman in the last draft higher than round 5. We could've done more in free agency in general.

I was HUGELY into bringing in Holmgren and Heckert, so no mommy issues, no agenda... I just think they've been pretty bad so far. I simply don't know how to judge Shurmur with no running backs, no WRs, no arm at QB, and a left guard who's really, really sucking bad after we lost a good one.

All that and nothing on Gil Haskell?

I thought maybe Adkins or Sobo might have some info on what the guy is doing here.

[Brown Warrior]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

All that and nothing on Gil Haskell?

I thought maybe Adkins or Sobo might have some info on what the guy is doing here.

Good post. Keep digging deep and elevating the discourse!

Here, for the reading impaired: Haskell was brought in to evaluate offensive talent. Ta-dah!

[Jax Dawg]

Haskell gets a 7 figure salary to tell Big Mike or "Coach" as he likes to be called - "Yeah Coach the offense looks like shit!" Oh, and be Mike's BFF in lonely Cleveland where he doesn't have anyone cool to hang out with.

[choco]

Well, it was nice chatting with y'all the last week or so. Being that the broken record is back derailing every thread and making them about "passing league", "colt sux", "my FA wishlist", "Julio Jones would make us awesome", "Barkley has a great ass".....suddenly the football discourse has plummeted and been replaced by one continual expression despite different thread titles.

Take care!