Jaguars this week

[OzDawg]

I'd agree, Cam Newton is lightin it up for a rookie, but what 29 turnovers so far? and his QB rating was below 65 for teh past 3 weeks... maybe they got game tape

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by Greythan

I think we knew that. Still doesn't mean you're right.

I saw many different play calls and different routes being run this week than past weeks.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by OzDawg

I'd agree, Cam Newton is lightin it up for a rookie,

And i'd disagree. Sure if turnovers were like TD's he'd be lighting the joint up. Unfortunately turnovers don't suddenly turn into good things nor can they be ignored. Likewise costing your team games is actually a bad thing. I know listening to the media dangle from Scam's raisins you'd think it was the greatest thing on earth, it really isn't.

[Brown Warrior]

I think turnovers are seen as something that a young QB with elite talent will grow out of. Newton is also showing serious playmaking ability. Now if he's turning the ball over as much in year two, the questions become valid.

I'd look at total offense and points to judge a young QB. In spite of the gaffes, is he elevating the unit? That sounded a little more sexual than intended.

[golfer704u]

Right, you'll know in two years if Newton is a guy who can lead his team to victory, or is just another Derick Anderson.

And I think you have to look and see that BY causing all those turnovers and making his team give up points, he's making it so he HAS to make more plays, he has the opportunity to throw more, so his yards are inflated due to his own inability to keep the ball secure.

[Brown Warrior]

All true, G. When you watch Newton, you see the potential for serious greatness... but you also see the potential for a Randall Cunningham, a guy who made amazing plays and then broke your heart his entire career. Just not consistent enough to be counted among the greats.

[nickers]

Originally Posted by Brown Warrior

All true, G. When you watch Newton, you see the potential for serious greatness... but you also see the potential for a Randall Cunningham, a guy who made amazing plays and then broke your heart his entire career. Just not consistent enough to be counted among the greats.

like all young QB's...they need a fair shake.

[Enigmatic Evil]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

I can see improvement happening too Flugs, now we need to see it continue against the division. The last 6 games are going to be huge for this franchise going forward. I'd like to see these guys start believing and thinking they can beat anybody.

Exactly. I saw an interview with a Chicago Bear last weekend and he looked focused, ready and confidently he said "We're just going to go out there and play hard, we're looking at this like it's a playoff game." Period, end of story, and you took it seriously. IF anyone on our team was to say that right now I wonder if I'd even take it seriously..