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Originally Posted by golfer704u  Now before someone just comes in here and bashes the particular names there now, (I'm looking at you KoK). I want this to be a serious and constructive discussion.
Being away from Ohio and Cleveland. I'm not privy to everything that goes on there. I read some of the "real" media such as the PD and ABJ.
But now it seems like the OBR is considered some reliable journalistic source. And their analysts seem to be given a higher stature. I've been to the OBR. To me it's a message board like many I have been on. With some very smart people on it and some not so smart people.
What got the OBR it's appeared credibility? do they have actual media credentials now?
Again, I am not attacking anyone specifically. Most of thier expert anaylsys is well thought out even if I disagree with it.
I guess in the end this is my lament at the death of real reporting and that anyone can become a "journalist" now adays without going through any real professional vetting process or editorial process. |
I think it's important football fans find their comfortable niches online. Quite often that's a timing thing. If a stranger goes onto any board - it'll probably look clicky at first until regulars know you're there for the long haul and you can post something interesting to read.
There's uncredentialed people all over this board that are GREAT reads. I don't want to name them because I'll inevitably forget someone and it becomes an insult never intended. All they have to show me is they WATCH games enough to know the team or support what they're saying and be interesting in the process. I'm always finding myself saying -
gee, I didn't even think of that or think of it in that light. I tend to come off as one that likes to debate which is a politically correct way of saying blowhard asshole. Beleieve it or not, I'm really just always trying to challenge people to see something in another way; especially if I feel they are shortchanging someone on the team or in the organization. Again, my style or approach doesn't always come off where I'm proud of it so I'm sorry if I ever offend anyone. It's not uncommon for me to give one props in another subject after I disagreed in another to show it's not personal. Even better, I've lost countless debates that I actually had people in here changing my perspective based on thorough research and good explanations/examples supporting it.
About the talent scouts: I don't mind anyone taking an interest in scouting the prospects out there and sharing thorough research. In fact, our journey as Browns' fans feels like we're going down that yellow brick road in search the Wizard of Oz who is employed by the enemy in Baltimore. Since we're NEVER in a position to be excited about playoffs in late November and all through December, it's fun to think about the prospects entering the draft. We want to start finding that guy like an Antonio Brown who is so talented - he can score very easily if a talented corner slips or 1 mistake is made. Talented guys always seem to be scoring by accident while our WRs always seem to be dropping passes, whimping out in traffic and getting tackled in the open field by a blade of grass. Quite simply, we NEVER make that Antonio Brown play because we CAN'T. Replay of the pass shows a wobbler that went back shoulder. It was a pass a McCoy critic would have called a wounded duck if the same throw was made by Colt. BUT, when you have the better athlete you know will catch it - your confidence as a QB is let er rip and MY GUY WINS. Greg Little doesn't give our QB that kind of confidence at all and neither does NoMas while Cribbs had to watch both guys all 2nd half as he stood on the sidelines in the doghouse for whatever the reason is. I sincerely hope that reason isn't because Josh has been losing here for about 4-5 seasons before Heckert, Holmgren and Shurmur first came in contact with what it feels like to be in OUR shoes since about 1995. If you don't know where this organization has been - HOW can you understand the frustrations from the fans and players that have been living it far too long to be PATIENT with it?
Last night, I watched a close football game that was decided by talent capable of making BIG plays vrs talent incapable. Heart and will kept me PROUD of my favorite team all night regardless of the final score. I'm glad I can share that on this board without it getting intercepted by a Colt McCoy critic. If I want that stuff, I can go read the OBR but it's too emotionally irrational and premature to me. I think of the San Diego fans that got what they deserved in Philip Rivers when they already had Drew Brees ready to emerge in his 4th NFL season. Not every QB inherits paradise in their first 32 starts as Steve Young, John Elway, Drew Brees, Troy Aikmen and so many others remind us over the years.
As it pertains to message boards, there's some people that
only want to translate EVERY problem to Colt McCoy because solving 1 issue is easier than looking at the BIGGER issue. Consequently, there's a ton of frustrated fans that ONLY want to bash Colt McCoy since we already did the usual firing of the Head Coach and OC that didn't work out quite as well as many of them thought. That being the case, they're finding a place of common interest and bonding over it. I heard the OBR is very BIG on hating McCoy and calling him Charlie Frye. I'm sure they have some very loyal and open minded fans that research and present it all as great reads too. With QBs, I hate to be premature because there's ALWAYS examples of guys that take a little longer when they were drafted into chaos, controversy and massive turnover. I think of the San Diego fans that got what they deserved in Philip Rivers when they already had Drew Brees ready to emerge in his 4th NFL season. Not every QB inherits paradise in their first 32 starts as Steve Young, John Elway, Drew Brees, Troy Aikmen and so many others remind us over the years. 3 QBs had to leave Tampa to WIN Superbowls as starters while Vinny took the NY Jets to an AFC Championship Game out in Denver. If that Tampa environment didn't show people that young QBs need tools to work with or they're doomed - then they don't WANT to see that. It destroys their theory that all we have to do is bench 1 more QB and put the offense back in diapers only to delay telling us "he needs receivers." This ain't USC where a QB can throw an unspiraled alley-ooop to WRs way better than Greg Little. You don't open someone's cranium to remove a brain tumor if the headache was a sympton to another illness. You do your RESEARCH and dig for the accurate diagnosis so you treat the problem correctly.
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12-09-2011
"You can spout all you want about 'facts' and you can stroke your ego by thinking you know oh so much more about football than anyone else...or you can get your head out of your ass and realize that your opinion is worth what I paid for it. Nothing. Just the same as mine." -HIGHWAYGAL
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