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Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy suffered a devastating illegal helmet-to-helmet hit from Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison. Two plays later, he was allegedly cleared by the Browns medical staff and re-entered the game.

Upon entering, McCoy inherited excellent field position after backup quarterback Seneca Wallace connected with tight end Evan Moore at the five yard line. However, a stuff by the Steelers defense on a draw play and then an ugly sack on McCoy pushed the Browns back to the 15 yard line.

The look on McCoy's face as he came to the line of scrimmage said it all.

He was lost.

Full article here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...ith-concussion


The medical staff cleared him, blame them too but come on. Shurmur must have been to busy dialing up that draw play to realize McCoy didn't know his own name.
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McCoy apparently passed all the concussion tests or he wouldn't have been put back in the game. The NFL has cracked down on making sure guys are fully good to go before they can go in and play. So I don't think McCoy had a concussion but he definitely got rattled big time because he did look like a deer in the headlights when he went back in.

I honestly don't blame any part of the team for the loss. Shurmur's playcalling was actually pretty decent. McCoy had those two bad INT's, lately he's done that pretty consitantly which none of us like. The defense got gashed again on the run but made 3 turnovers and the goal line stand to keep the Browns in the game. Jauron did suck in that he should have been blitzing the hell out of Big Ben when he came back in.

I'm not totally backing the coaches or McCoy but if we had offensive talent, I think we win that game. We were in it up to the last 2 minutes. The team is too young and talentless on offense to make up for two interceptions. One was a stupid decision by McCoy and the other wasn't thrown when it should have been. If McCoy throws that ball when the receiver is making his cut he probably gets the TD instead of the INT.
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He did have a concussion:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/73...sed-concussion

The best part is this: "I feel very confident that if he wasn't able to play we would have stopped him," Shurmur said. "I can assure everyone that we followed protocol."

The strict protocol you mentioned, took the Browns staff only 2 plays or 80 seconds to administer and determine Colt was ready to play?

Haha, yeah right?

Colt was LIKELY only evaluated for his hand injury, then sent back into the game. The NFL is investigating whether protocol was followed.
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He did have a concussion:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/73...sed-concussion

The best part is this: "I feel very confident that if he wasn't able to play we would have stopped him," Shurmur said. "I can assure everyone that we followed protocol."

The strict protocol you mentioned, took the Browns staff only 2 plays or 80 seconds to administer and determine Colt was ready to play?

Haha, yeah right?

Colt was LIKELY only evaluated for his hand injury, then sent back into the game. The NFL is investigating whether protocol was followed.
Wow, when did that story come out Mikey? I didn't hear that he did in fact have a concussion till you linked that article. Messed up.
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It was late last night, well updated it says. I read it last night I forget what time.
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It was late last night, well updated it says. I read it last night I forget what time.
Well I take back what I said in terms of McCoy. He shouldn't have been allowed back in.
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I'm not totally backing the coaches or McCoy but if we had offensive talent, I think we win that game.

No way.

The squeelers were playing down to their opponent. And somehow their pity is worse than anything else we've had to take from them.
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Cleveland Browns quarterback Colt McCoy suffered a devastating illegal helmet-to-helmet hit from Pittsburgh Steelers linebacker James Harrison. Two plays later, he was allegedly cleared by the Browns medical staff and re-entered the game.

Upon entering, McCoy inherited excellent field position after backup quarterback Seneca Wallace connected with tight end Evan Moore at the five yard line. However, a stuff by the Steelers defense on a draw play and then an ugly sack on McCoy pushed the Browns back to the 15 yard line.

The look on McCoy's face as he came to the line of scrimmage said it all.

He was lost.

Full article here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...ith-concussion


The medical staff cleared him, blame them too but come on. Shurmur must have been to busy dialing up that draw play to realize McCoy didn't know his own name.

driving for possibly the winning score in the waning minutes this buffoon of a coach reinserts a player that took as devastating hit as any I have seen since Dary Stingly was paralyzed by jack Tatem. To send the kid back in was a level of such incompetence Shurmer needs fired. Dumber and more dangerous than his stupid calls at the waning minutes of the rams game he send back in his QB who did not know where he was. Shurmer needed a scapegoat i guess.
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McCoy was handed three huge opportunities to score...to stick it to the steelers and he failed miserably! Before the hit...He aint it!

Hugely Irked at Jauron for not sending anybody up the middle on blitzes with hated hobbled Qb who can't move. Step on his neck opportunity missed!

Shurmer will get(from me) until 8 games into next year before I judge him but this year is a fking disaster, imo
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driving for possibly the winning score in the waning minutes this buffoon of a coach reinserts a player that took as devastating hit as any I have seen since Daryl Stingly was paralyzed by jack Tatem. To send the kid back in was a level of such incompetence Shurmer needs fired. Dumber and more dangerous than his stupid calls at the waning minutes of the rams game he send back in his QB who did not know where he was. Shurmer needed a scapegoat i guess.
Normally, with a new coach, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. You and I are apparently from the same time era. Shurmur makes Palmer, Davis, and Crennell look like f##king geniuses by comparison.

Wallace just completes a nice pass to get the Browns in the Red Zone, and then Turdmur trots out his starting qb who couldn't even remember anything after the hit, to toss an underthrown duck in the end zone.

Dear Mr. Holmgren, you have "your" guy running "your" WCO to the tune of 30th in the league. If "you're all on the same page" it needs to be turned.
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Normally, with a new coach, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. You and I are apparently from the same time era. Shurmur makes Palmer, Davis, and Crennell look like f##king geniuses by comparison.

Wallace just completes a nice pass to get the Browns in the Red Zone, and then Turdmur trots out his starting qb who couldn't even remember anything after the hit, to toss an underthrown duck in the end zone.

Dear Mr. Holmgren, you have "your" guy running "your" WCO to the tune of 30th in the league. If "you're all on the same page" it needs to be turned.

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