Something I overlooked on Colt McCoy

[mikeyP]

Others may have said this before but does anyone else think McCoy was rushed into the starting position?

Wouldn't Wallace have been the better choice during the Browns transition to the WCO this year?

Take a look:

Seneca Wallace Proving Colt McCoy Wasn't Ready to Be Cleveland Browns QB
By Mike Hoag Jr. (Featured Columnist) on December 19, 2011

Cleveland Browns backup quarterback Seneca Wallace's performance against the Arizona Cardinals in Week 15 just may rouse your interest. His excellent play highlights a glaring deficiency in the Browns offense in 2011. So, is Colt McCoy to blame for the Browns' offensive struggles this season? Wallace's performance could not have come at a more opportune time for both himself and Colt McCoy critics.

Read full: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...land-browns-qb

[pl4tinum]

Sorry, did I miss something? We sucked, and we lost. Seneca was running for his life and throwing the ball away just like Colt. The only things Seneca did well were run around and extend plays, and make a quicker first read at times. He got the ball downfield a bit better. But the end result is the same. The QB is going to look kinda shitty when he's running away from guys coming thru huge holes in the line and with WRs who cant get open

[Legacy Fan]

I think @ClevelandFrowns said it best regarding Colt McCoy, Shurm's WCO and Seneca Wallace's performance yesterday: (paraphrasing)

With another 7 years experience, Colt McCoy can put up 17 points in Shurmur's WCO instead of 10.

[mikeyP]

Originally Posted by Legacy Fan

I think @ClevelandFrowns said it best regarding Colt McCoy, Shurm's WCO and Seneca Wallace's performance yesterday: (paraphrasing)

With another 7 years experience, Colt McCoy can put up 17 points in Shurmur's WCO instead of 10.

Haha

[Fooleeze]

That's a really ignorant article by Mike Hoag. I don't think any of us would rank Seneca's play as 'excellent.' He seemed to manage the game 'ok' but I believe that is mostly because of his experience in the system. Nothing made me believe that Seneca is for sure the better option, but there's some truth to the fact that since Seneca knew the system, maybe he should have been starting while McCoy got up to speed.

[mikeyP]

Well, I disagree Fooleeze. Wallace made good decisions- threw the ball away the right way (i.e. out of bounds or on the ground where no one else could get it), took off to run only when was necessary not everytime he felt a hint of pressure and delivered the ball downfield.

Nearly all of his passes were on target.

[DieselPusher]

Biggest difference between Seneca and McCoy was greg little finally made an adjusment and adjusted on Seneca's roll out. eliminate the 79 yards and his numbers were'nt great

Seneca did play with a faster rythym, but the outcome was the same.

[Greythan]

Seneca's play is what we thought it would be: solid but unspectacular.

McCoy is a young QB so seeing Wallace perform as well or even better isn't newsbreaking. The question on McCoy relates to his ceiling. Its just getting harder and harder to imagine his ceiling being that high.

[Fooleeze]

Originally Posted by mikeyP

Well, I disagree Fooleeze. Wallace made good decisions- threw the ball away the right way (i.e. out of bounds or on the ground where no one else could get it), took off to run only when was necessary not everytime he felt a hint of pressure and delivered the ball downfield.

Nearly all of his passes were on target.

Seneca's accuracy was ok, but he missed his share of passes, that's for sure. Let's not make his game out to be better than it was. You also need to take into account the following:

* McCoy also just came off of a string of several top-10 defenses, and while Arizona is playing better, is not the same caliber.
* The team had much longer to prepare for this game than any in the past several weeks
* Peyton Hillis was "as healthy as he has been all year" and carried the ball 26 times, being mostly effective. The most carries he has had since week 2 vs. Indy.
* Greg Little started catching balls that hit him in both hands. Let's not forget how Little has been sabotaging the team over the past several weeks with his drops. And I'm talking about the balls that were right in front of the numbers, or right in front of his eyes, and we know there have been plenty of them.

Don't read me the wrong way, I'm not arguing, just expressing my opinion, and I respect yours. I still really believe that Colt can be effective with the right tools (including WR, consistent RB play, OL Execution, and a good game plan. . . offensive coordinator). Do I think he's going to have the chance? Probably not, the way we've seen things happen over the past 12 years. And I think Seneca managed the game ok yesterday, but it certainly could have been better.

[golfer704u]

I am arguing. Anyone that thought Wallace was some how "excellent" compared to McCoy just wasn't watching the same game I was. Wallace had two throws that made some differences. A lob down the sideline to MoMass who actually tracked a ball and caught it for once.

and as someone else said. Greg Little finally got his head out of his ass and adjusted to Wallace scrambling, didn't drop the ball and got YAC.

Other than those two plays, Wallace was as boring as can be. Now he was running away from pressure all day. But as Heckert told us, that's NOT the problem of the guards on the line, so it must have been Wallace's fault too.

[King of Kings]

I'm gonna drop a hint. See those successful QB's in the NFL? Look into the cockpit's they were put into starting out. If you don't have the cockpit then your young QB isn't ready.

[Solon16]

I think the whole fact that seneca and mccoy didn't look much different proves that McCoy is a backup Qb. imo