Projected draft order at Christmas

[OconRecon]

Projected draft order as of today per Schefty:

1. Colts

2. Rams

3. Vikes

4. Browns

5. Jags

6. Bucs

7. Redskins

8. Dolphins

9. Panthers

10.Bills

So, thoughts? Pluto's article claims McCoy is not AFCN material. Trent Richardson probably is. Still need a WR playmaker. And that's just the O.

Hmmmm.

[Tobalaz]

*crosses fingers*
Blackmon, Blackmon, Blackmon...
PLEASE!!!!

[Greythan]

Game changing playmaker please. (QB, WR, RDE, LB, DB) Sorry, I just don't put a RB in the class of game changing anymore.)

If none available, trade down.

[DieselPusher]

Jags, Redskins and Dolphins might want RGIII and willing to trade with the Browns, we drop, we get the DE or RB or LB we want, assuming Blackmon is gone... hopefully picking up a 2nd

Even if Blackmon is there, we might make the deal. I'm not sure how much better Blackmon is vs the other WR we can get with the Atlanta pick.

[Sez.EJ]

I gotta disagree that a RB iscannot be a primary playmaker in today's NFL. The 49ers are 30th in passes thrown this year.. Gore is the offense He's just one of many RB's who are primary playmakers in the NFL.. AFC.. look at Houston (Arian Foster) and Balt. ( Ray Rice).. that's just three of many great playmakers and gamechangers at RB.

Get Blackmon in here if by some miracle St. Louis passes on him.. and re-sign Hillis.

[Solon16]

Rams and Viks already have a QB of the future, RG3 should be a Brown. I'd rather trade our 2 #1's for Luck to the Colts. We have been in need of some Luck for a long long long time!

[Sez.EJ]

Luck will suck with the same crappy team around him.. That is what needs fixed. He's majorly over-hyped right now.. See Sam Bradford, Jamarcus Russell, and Brady Quinn for reference on the over-hyped QB. They all look amazingly human right now.

Besides. Luck will not get by the Colts with the #1 pick and the cost to move to #1 is much too costly.. especially when we have 7-9 gaping holes on this team.. in no particular order of need: G, RT, 2 WR's, 2 LB's, DE, S, CB and possibly RB which would make 10 holes... then if you think QB that makes 11 holes.

[Solon16]

Originally Posted by Sez.EJ

Luck will suck with the same crappy team around him.. That is what needs fixed. He's majorly over-hyped right now.. See Sam Bradford, Jamarcus Russell, and Brady Quinn for reference on the over-hyped QB. They all look amazingly human right now.

Besides. Luck will not get by the Colts with the #1 pick and the cost to move to #1 is much too costly.. especially when we have 7-9 gaping holes on this team.. in no particular order of need: G, RT, 2 WR's, 2 LB's, DE, S, CB and possibly RB which would make 10 holes... then if you think QB that makes 11 holes.

i cant disagree with you more...this is the same statement made since around 2004...It does not compute. A qb like luck is exactly what the Browns need and have since Bernie got his ass kicked out of town. I mean look at the Colts 2-14 with many many holes...without PM. He is in the lineup and they are playoff material. I won't listen to the "we don't need a qb" rationale any more!

p.s. I was in agreement with this "statement" previously.... Never again! We need a top tier QB!

[jnuh]

Originally Posted by Solon16

i cant disagree with you more...this is the same statement made since around 2004...It does not compute. A qb like luck is exactly what the Browns need and have since Bernie got his ass kicked out of town. I mean look at the Colts 2-14 with many many holes...without PM. He is in the lineup and they are playoff material. I won't listen to the "we don't need a qb" rationale any more!

p.s. I was in agreement with this "statement" previously.... Never again! We need a top tier QB!

While I am in full agreement that a franchise QB is the most important piece a team needs ... I dissgree with us needing to grab Luck or any other rookie QB. The bottom line is with all the holes we have any young QB is going to come here and get overwhelmed and swallowed into the Cleveland Brown QB abyss of suck. It doesn't matter how great a young QB's skill set is when he has no running game, nobody who can consistently catch the ball ... and make plays after the occasional catch, and no one blocking for him. We are going to see exactly what we see from Colt.

Comparing Peyton Manning who is experianced vet and already knows about reading defene and what to do when a play breaks down is an entirely different animal then a rookie QB who is going to just get thrown into the fire. A veteran QB has a very different awareness of the game around him then a rookie.

I am not against drafting a rookie QB ... I am however against drafting one this year before we at get decent pieces for a kid to wok with. The only exception is if we get eveything we need via free agency, but that isn't realistic as we have a good amount of holes to fill.

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

Colts - Luck

Rams - Kalil

Vikes - Blackmon

Browns - Shit out of Luck

[Legendary]

NO RGIII or Trent Richardson is not bad choice to have

[DawgFan]

Originally Posted by TheBestPlayersPlay

Colts - Luck

Rams - Kalil

Vikes - Blackmon

Browns - Shit out of Luck

That scenario leaves the Browns with major trade bait in either Richardson or RGIII. In other words, we still end up with a top 10 pick (maybe our DE or ILB), and then extra picks this year and maybe even next year.

Talk was that the Luck pick was worth 3 1st rounders, so that means RGIII will be worth at least a 1st and 2 2nds, or a 1st this and next year...who knows.

Our pick will be the pick for the RGIII sweepsteaks as we are the first team that MIGHT take him....another reason for the "lack of support" verbalized for Colt out of Berea.

At any rate, there are a lot of guys in this draft that can start day one that fill needs for the Browns, in no particular order:
Claiborne/Kirkpatrick, CB
Coples, DE
one of the OT's
Kuechly, ILB
DeCastro, G

and we still have the second 1st rounder to pick up a guy like
Floyd, WR
Brown, OLB
Wright, WR
Miller, RB
Hightower, ILB

In other words, this draft seems to be pretty deep on some needs, and just because we don't get Blackmon (which I still think we might), doesn't mean there aren't good options.