Our Loss is Dallas gain

[King of Kings]

Henry Ellard isn’t the only coach leaving the Jets.


Bill Callahan, who has been the assistant head coach and offensive line coach of the Jets for the last four years, is leaving to coach the Cowboys’ offensive line, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports.


Callahan replaces Hudson Houck, who is retiring after 29 years in the NFL. Houck has coached with the Rams, Cowboys, Seahawks, Chargers and Dolphins and says he’s ready to call it quits.


“I’ve had a great time, been part of a lot of winning teams and I’ve enjoyed a lot of wonderful relationships,” Houck said.


Now the Cowboys add Callahan, a well respected line coach who has previously been head coach of the Raiders and at Nebraska. He should be a good addition to Jason Garrett’s staff, and his departure coming on the same day that Ellard is departing as the Jets’ receivers’ coach shows that there’s not as much stability on Rex Ryan’s staff as the Jets’ have been suggesting publicly. The Jets had had offered Callahan a contract extension on multiple occasions, and Callahn declined.


The Cowboys will also add Jerome Henderson, formerly the defensive backs coach of the Browns, to replace Dave Campo as the defensive backs coach in Dallas.

It's unfortunate Callahan isn't a Bob Lamonte client/Andy Reid castoff. Then again he was to be our OC three seasons ago when E*** M****** came aboard so that probably tainted his steller track record as a great offensive mind, respected throughout the NFL(except by Holmgren, Heckert and Shurmur apparently).

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

It's unfortunate Callahan isn't a Bob Lamonte client/Andy Reid castoff. Then again he was to be our OC three seasons ago when E*** M****** came aboard so that probably tainted his steller track record as a great offensive mind, respected throughout the NFL(except by Holmgren, Heckert and Shurmur apparently).

That's okay - the Jets were 8-8 with a bunch of 1st round players all over that offensive roster. I thought they underachieved in year#3 of the NY media's Rex Ryan Upgrade. I'm loving every second of it.

Remember all those draft day promises we heard about Mark Sanchez? If he struggled with receivers like Burress, Holmes and Keller - could you ONLY imagine what he would have been like in Cleveland? He was soooo wonderful pre-draft we were educated that he doesn't even need an oline because the reasoning was Aaron Rodgers doesn't need one. Remember all that? And then of course I inexplicably heard Rex Ryan saying they needed to protect their QB better after Baltimore held about 9 team meetings on Sanchez this season.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by Flugel

That's okay - the Jets were 8-8 with a bunch of 1st round players all over that offensive roster. I thought they underachieved in year#3 of the NY media's Rex Ryan Upgrade. I'm loving every second of it.

Remember all those draft day promises we heard about Mark Sanchez? If he struggled with receivers like Burress, Holmes and Keller - could you ONLY imagine what he would have been like in Cleveland? He was soooo wonderful pre-draft we were educated that he doesn't even need an oline because the reasoning was Aaron Rodgers doesn't need one. Remember all that? And then of course I inexplicably heard Rex Ryan saying they needed to protect their QB better after Baltimore held about 9 team meetings on Sanchez this season.

Shep my bro, Callahan was relegated to being the lowly Oline coach in NY until his contract ran out. As we can see as soon as it did he took a lateral move to get the hell out of there. Hell Brian just quit as well. I unfortunately can't lay very much if any of the Jet's woe's on Bill Callahan. IIRC he joined the Jets as Oline coach in 2007 and up until this season his unit has been the best part of their whole squad.

More than that though is the whole resume, the whole package. Callahan is well regarded throughout the NFL as a great guy to mentor QB's, notice I said NFL and not Andy Reid's coffee klatsch, he's been a very successful OC, successful QB Coach and a successfull HC for the entire season he lasted in the black hole. That's the kinda guy Cleveland needs in the OC position. It would have been smart of them to call him up, hound him, call in a favor from Gruden to put in a word to him and did whatever it took to get him through the door and mentoring Shurmur, I mean the Offense. Unfortunately we're not dealing with smart people.

On a side note I love the name Hudson Houck so it'll be a bummer not hearing that name mentioned during Dallas games anymore. It was always good for a laugh when the announcers would call out his name.

[lemosley01]

Interesting - why would Dallas need a guy who is well regarded as a great QB mentor? I wonder if Dallas is targeting Griffin via trade...with us.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by lemosley01

Interesting - why would Dallas need a guy who is well regarded as a great QB mentor? I wonder if Dallas is targeting Griffin via trade...with us.

To finally get Tony Romo over the hump? Callahan is also a great Oline guy though and that will remain his position with this transfer to Dallas. My guess is it's that Dallas wants a better line and nothing more BUT there could always be an ulterior motive lurking in the shadows.

[Legendary]

is this Henry Ellard mentioned used to play for St Louis/LA Rams as wide receiver as part of Turf Time Show. If only we have some wide receivers

I sure we will see some new coach coming in recommended by our defensive co-ordintaor.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

Shep my bro, Callahan was relegated to being the lowly Oline coach in NY until his contract ran out. As we can see as soon as it did he took a lateral move to get the hell out of there. Hell Brian just quit as well. I unfortunately can't lay very much if any of the Jet's woe's on Bill Callahan. IIRC he joined the Jets as Oline coach in 2007 and up until this season his unit has been the best part of their whole squad.

More than that though is the whole resume, the whole package. Callahan is well regarded throughout the NFL as a great guy to mentor QB's, notice I said NFL and not Andy Reid's coffee klatsch, he's been a very successful OC, successful QB Coach and a successfull HC for the entire season he lasted in the black hole. That's the kinda guy Cleveland needs in the OC position. It would have been smart of them to call him up, hound him, call in a favor from Gruden to put in a word to him and did whatever it took to get him through the door and mentoring Shurmur, I mean the Offense. Unfortunately we're not dealing with smart people.

On a side note I love the name Hudson Houck so it'll be a bummer not hearing that name mentioned during Dallas games anymore. It was always good for a laugh when the announcers would call out his name.

Why are you calling me Shep? I disagreed how wonderful Bill Callahan is. Nothing personal at you so no need for high intensity to follow my reply. I'm just going to share my recollections of Bill Callahan and none of them are meant to be insulting to you. I like an overwhelming majority of your takes - I just don't dig Callahan.

I understand what Callahan's position was. The Jets running game and passing game slid considerably in 2011. There's quite a sum of 1st round draft picks in that offense. If they had trouble running the ball and protecting the passer in 2011, the first place I look is the oline he was in charge of. When they played against Baltimore in particular, NO oline did worse than his vrs them (even our's). And if we have to break out an injury excuse - well, we know he wouldn't be able to handle what goes on in Cleveland right?

The Callahan I remember is the guy that had Nebraska punting on 3rd down and going for it running up the middle on 4th and 8. He did some really mind boggling stupid things there. And then when he took over Gruden's talented team in Oakland, I'll give him credit that there was no brand new enforcements of the tuck rule screwing them out of SB Sunday. You always liked pointing that out when you wanted to say Brady and BB were overrated so you thought of Oakland as a team that MADE the SB if not for some unfair officiating. Therefore, the team knocking on the door of a SB finally made one under Callahan or perhaps via Gannon's audibles to more sensible plays. Unfortunately, his offense threw something like 4 INTs for TDs to Tampa's defense as if they had zero clue about their opponent or they were just that unprepared. Either way, it didn't take long for that offense and team to crumble into rationale for Callahan's release.

If he's a really special mind - he doesn't salute a young Brian Shootsinheineys with "yes sir." He'd be coordinating the offense at least at his next hire after fire. You don't go from Head Coach to position coach if you're out there acing your coaching career. Usually, one takes a smaller step down to a Coordinator position UNLESS the rest of the league wasn't interested in him. And now we understand the Jets offered him his most favorable contract as an Oline Coach. That's what the NFL market told him he was so that's what he became.

I SHARE much of your frustration with Mangini getting tossed for an enormous step backward. Having said that, I'm not gonna go way out of my way to pretend a lack of consideration for Bill Callahan is an epic mistake here. There's easier things to criticize like giving our QBs no playmakers in a WCO and keeping a WR on the field that drops seemingly 100% of the 3rd down throws hitting his hands.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by Flugel

Why are you calling me Shep?

Wow I did not realize I put that there. I must have hit up this thread AFTER the one where Golfer went "at least THAT guy isn't here to tell us Alex Smith carried the 49ers" and it slipped out. That or that crazy cat has wormed his way into my very psyche. My apologies Tom, it definitely WASN'T intentional!

[nickers]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

Wow I did not realize I put that there. I must have hit up this thread AFTER the one where Golfer went "at least THAT guy isn't here to tell us Alex Smith carried the 49ers" and it slipped out. That or that crazy cat has wormed his way into my very psyche. My apologies Tom, it definitely WASN'T intentional!

Just the same KoK...I wonder how many excuses Shep would make for Sanchez lol

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by nickers

Just the same KoK...I wonder how many excuses Shep would make for Sanchez lol

Probably every excuse in the book. Either way I just know Flugel's sitting at work right now all "motherfucker called me Shep... Motherfucker gonna get his ass beat now!"

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by king of kings

probably every excuse in the book. Either way i just know flugel's sitting at work right now all "motherfucker called me shep... Motherfucker gonna get his ass beat now!"

lmmfao!!!

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

Wow I did not realize I put that there. I must have hit up this thread AFTER the one where Golfer went "at least THAT guy isn't here to tell us Alex Smith carried the 49ers" and it slipped out. That or that crazy cat has wormed his way into my very psyche. My apologies Tom, it definitely WASN'T intentional!

LOL! No biggy.