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Well, Walter's football has thrown McCoy under the bus- but I'm not quite ready to do that yet. If H&H do I'll abide by their far superior insight.

BTW, in your listing of massive fails of first round qbs, how could you forget Todd Marijuanovitch?

The concrete example of where you wind up busting on first round qbs lies 55 miles to the south of Dayton- home of the Bungles. Ah Dave Kingler. Nope. Ah-kill-me Smith, he of the worm burner pass. Nope, not him either. Carson Palmer, like #1 overall? Close no cigar. Andy Dalton second round? BINGO!!!! Just like Bummer Esiason, and a couple of other second round bums like Brees and Farve.

So let's not get our panties in a bunch saying MUUUSSSSTTT draft RGIII- yet. (You-know-who would)

One thing I took away from the GB-NY game is, you can make the greatest qb in football (Rodgers) look average if you can pressure him- and you can make the far inferior qb (Manning) look like Rodgers- if you give him all day to throw.

Sure, McCoy regressed- but then OTOH, so did Mr. #1 overall, Sam Bradford. Anyone care to bet Fisher will dump him and take RGIII?


I think fisher will take RG3 just so he can start off with his own guy...would I bet on it?...No....
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I think fisher will take RG3 just so he can start off with his own guy...would I bet on it?...No....
Agreed. and remember. Fishers last QB even though they fought was Vince Young. I wonder if he sees a smarter andbetter passing version of young in RGIII.

That will be the ultimate irony, all this arguing over RGIII and he's gone when we draft.
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I guess none of you have NFL network...the reason he choose Rams is because he has a great young talent to work with at Qb(bradford) whiff
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I guess none of you have NFL network...the reason he choose Rams is because he has a great young talent to work with at Qb(bradford) whiff

Fisher isnt stupid...He isnt gonna tell the fan base or Bradford he's not his guy in public
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I'll have to go find it. Did he say Bradfords name? Or just "a great young talent to work with at QB". becuase that could cover Bradford OR RGIII.
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I'll have to go find it. Did he say Bradfords name? Or just "a great young talent to work with at QB". becuase that could cover Bradford OR RGIII.
Bradford's new coach spoke highly of the quarterback on Tuesday as well. "[2011] was difficult for him," Fisher said. "You have to look back at his success and progress in his first year. He has the chance to become a top quarterback in the National Football League very soon."

Lifted that from this article http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2012/1/...es-laurinaitis

He's also said stuff about loving Bradford a bunch more times on tv and radio and it has been said that it was the main reason he chose the Rams over the Dolphins.
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If RG3 gets selected at #2, it won't be because the St. Louis Rams took him. Some team, possibly us, will have traded up for him.
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If RG3 gets selected at #2, it won't be because the St. Louis Rams took him. Some team, possibly us, will have traded up for him.
Sure hope it aint us...If we trade up and it is not for luck....I'll completely hate Heckert!
But the way he prematures on players...the chance of him doing it is a possibilty!
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Sure hope it aint us...If we trade up and it is not for luck....I'll completely hate Heckert!
But the way he prematures on players...the chance of him doing it is a possibilty!
One thing I'm starting to agree with you on is that Heckert seems to get happy feet when he wants a player and thinks another team might take him. I do like a lot of what he has done but he needs to stay put and let the draft come to him.

That said there is still a lot of time and evaluations to be done about the draft class, especially the QBs. I don't think Luck is in play at all of anyone other then the Colts but you never know. RGIII, at this point seems to be a love em or hate em type of prospect but I can't see any scenario where I'd trade up and give away picks to get him. Someone, maybe even us, will fall in love with the guy. Could be a lot of someones wanting him but I don't take him at #4 just because I need a QB, you got to fall in love with him as a future franchise QB.

That said, RGIII and Luck aren't the only QBs in this draft and as we've seen over the years QBs don't necessarily progress by the order they were drafted in. Again, evaluations need to be made but some say Tannehill is a potential franchise QB, but a little raw. Very simular to Kapernick of last year. I admit I haven't seen him a lot but from what I've seen and read, he has a big arm and is very athletic. He is not DA, he is a pretty solid QB worthy of being taken in the bottom of the first round or top of the second. Many say he is a lot better option then Locker, Ponder or some of the others taken high last year.

Just food for thought but if this staff doesn't fall in love for RGIII there could be another QB that grabs their fancy. Worst case scenario is you have McCoy who might have a low ceiling but at worst he con develop into a very good backup and hold the fort while the next guy is being mentored and the team is putting more pieces in place.

I got to say that if you think RGIII is your future then you take him but if you aren't sure about him, for any reason, there are alternatives that might work very well.

Just food for thought because it doesn't have to be RGIII or nothing if you don't think he can develop into a franchise QB.

And please, I'm not saying it should Tannehill or nothing either. But I wouldn't be adverse to bringing in a developmental guy with great potential and go with McCoy next year and let things play out in a San Diego type of way. Rogers was a late first round guy with a simular scouting analysis as Tannehill. A lot of QBs aren't NFL ready coming out of college but have NFL arms, good football smarts but need developing.

Just sayin, you don't have to put it all on the line if you don't fully believe in a guy, even if others have him rated as a top prospect. Cincy rolled the dice last year and seem to have won. They passed on Gabbert, who was said to be the most NFL ready guy who could step right in and start. Instead they took Green and counted on their scouts evaluations to be right and Grabbed Dalton in the second round.

They didn't panic and take the top rated QB, they took the guy they liked the best.
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