QB Stats

[Solon16]

2011 Quarterback Statistics
Name	Team	Att	C	Pct	Yds	Avg	TD	Int	Rating
Aaron Rodgers	Packers	502	343	68.3	4,643	9.25	45	6	122.5
Drew Brees	Saints	657	468	71.2	5,476	8.34	46	14	110.6
Tom Brady	Patriots	611	401	65.6	5,235	8.57	39	12	105.6
Tony Romo	Cowboys	522	346	66.3	4,184	8.02	31	10	102.5
Matthew Stafford	Lions	663	421	63.5	5,038	7.60	41	16	97.2
Matt Schaub	Texans	292	178	61.0	2,479	8.49	15	6	96.8
Eli Manning	Giants	589	359	61.0	4,933	8.38	29	16	92.9
Matt Ryan	Falcons	566	347	61.3	4,177	7.38	29	12	92.2
Alex Smith	49ers	446	274	61.4	3,150	7.06	17	5	90.7
Ben Roethlisberger	Steelers	513	324	63.2	4,077	7.95	21	14	90.1
Philip Rivers	Chargers	582	366	62.9	4,624	7.95	27	20	88.7
Matt Moore	Dolphins	347	210	60.5	2,497	7.20	16	9	87.1
Jay Cutler	Bears	314	182	58.0	2,319	7.39	13	7	85.7
Michael Vick	Eagles	423	253	59.8	3,303	7.81	18	14	84.9
Cam Newton	Panthers	517	310	60.0	4,051	7.84	21	17	84.5
Matt Hasselbeck	Titans	518	319	61.6	3,571	6.89	18	14	82.4
Kevin Kolb	Cardinals	253	146	57.7	1,955	7.73	9	8	81.1
Joe Flacco	Ravens	542	312	57.6	3,610	6.66	20	12	80.9
Carson Palmer	Raiders	328	199	60.7	2,753	8.39	13	16	80.5
Andy Dalton	Bengals	516	300	58.1	3,398	6.59	20	13	80.4
T.J. Yates	Texans	134	82	61.2	949	7.08	3	3	80.2
Tarvaris Jackson	Seahawks	450	271	60.2	3,091	6.87	14	13	79.2
Ryan Fitzpatrick	Bills	569	353	62.0	3,832	6.74	24	23	79.1
Mark Sanchez	Jets	543	308	56.7	3,474	6.40	26	18	78.2
Kyle Orton	Chiefs	252	150	59.5	1,758	6.98	9	9	77.8
Matt Cassel	Chiefs	269	160	59.5	1,713	6.37	10	9	76.6
Josh Freeman	Buccaneers	551	346	62.8	3,592	6.52	16	22	74.6
Colt McCoy	Browns	463	265	57.2	2,733	5.90	14	11	74.6
Tim Tebow	Broncos	271	126	46.5	1,729	6.38	12	6	72.9
Rex Grossman	Redskins	458	265	57.9	3,151	6.88	16	20	72.4
Sam Bradford	Rams	357	191	53.5	2,164	6.06	6	6	70.5
Christian Ponder	Vikings	291	158	54.3	1,853	6.37	13	13	70.1
John Skelton	Cardinals	275	151	54.9	1,913	6.96	11	14	68.9
Curtis Painter	Colts	243	132	54.3	1,541	6.34	6	9	66.6
Blaine Gabbert	Jaguars	413	210	50.8	2,214	5.36	12	11	65.4

Only Blaine gabbert had worse YPA

[Solon16]

When Starting Quarterbacks Were Drafted (Blue = 2011 Playoff Teams)
Name	Team	Drafted	Round	Pick	Player	Drafted By	College
Michael Vick	Eagles	2001	1	1	1	Falcons	Virginia Tech
Carson Palmer	Raiders	2003	1	1	1	Bengals	USC
Eli Manning	Giants	2004	1	1	1	Chargers	Mississippi
Alex Smith	49ers	2005	1	1	1	49ers	Utah
Matthew Stafford	Lions	2009	1	1	1	Lions	Georgia
Sam Bradford	Rams	2010	1	1	1	Rams	Oklahoma
Cam Newton	Panthers	2011	1	1	1	Panthers	Auburn
Matt Ryan	Falcons	2008	1	3	3	Falcons	Boston College
Philip Rivers	Chargers	2004	1	4	4	Giants	North Carolina State
Mark Sanchez	Jets	2009	1	5	5	Jets	USC
Blaine Gabbert	Jaguars	2011	1	10	10	Jaguars	Missouri
Ben Roethlisberger	Steelers	2004	1	11	11	Steelers	Miami (OH)
Jay Cutler	Bears	2006	1	11	11	Broncos	Vanderbilt
Christian Ponder	Vikings	2011	1	12	12	Vikings	Florida State
Josh Freeman	Buccaneers	2009	1	17	17	Buccaneers	Kansas State
Joe Flacco	Ravens	2008	1	18	18	Ravens	Delaware
Rex Grossman	Redskins	2003	1	22	22	Bears	Florida
Aaron Rodgers	Packers	2005	1	24	24	Packers	California
Tim Tebow	Broncos	2010	1	25	25	Broncos	Florida
Drew Brees	Saints	2001	2	1	32	Chargers	Purdue
Andy Dalton	Bengals	2011	2	3	35	Bengals	Texas Christian
Kevin Kolb	Cardinals	2007	2	4	36	Eagles	Houston
Tarvaris Jackson	Seahawks	2006	2	32	64	Vikings	Alabama State
Colt McCoy	Browns	2010	3	21	85	Browns	Texas
Matt Schaub	Texans	2004	3	27	90	Falcons	Virginia
Kyle Orton	Chiefs	2005	4	5	106	Bears	Purdue
T.J. Yates	Texans	2011	5	21	152	Texans	North Carolina
John Skelton	Cardinals	2010	5	24	155	Cardinals	Fordham
Matt Hasselbeck	Titans	1998	6	34	187	Packers	Boston College
Tom Brady	Patriots	2000	6	33	199	Patriots	Michigan
Curtis Painter	Colts	2009	6	28	201	Colts	Purdue
Matt Cassel	Chiefs	2005	7	16	230	Patriots	USC
Ryan Fitzpatrick	Bills	2005	7	36	250	Rams	Harvard
Tony Romo	Cowboys						Eastern Illinois
Matt Moore	Dolphins						Oregon State

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

Huh. I only see 2 maybe 3 quality starting QBs in the entire league drafted outside of the 1st round. Ouch. (jury still out on Dalton, although he barely slipped out of round 1, and Hasselbeck was pretty good in his day)

[Flugel]

Everybody wants a brand new QB in round 1 for their struggling franchise until they receive the numbers of Bradford, Ponder or Gabbert. By the way, which of those first round picks ranked higher than McCoy on that chart? Cleveland fans aren't exactly patient with young QBs.

Steve Young

Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate

1985

Tampa

5

138

72

52.2

27.6

935

6.8

187.0

3

2.2

8

5.8

59

0

0

21

158

56.9

1986

Tampa

14

363

195

53.7

25.9

2,282

6.3

163.0

8

2.2

13

3.6

46

0

0

47

326

65.5

Drew Brees

Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate

2001

SD

1

27

15

55.6

27.0

221

8.2

221.0

1

3.7

0

0.0

40

4

1

2

12

94.8

2002

SD

16

526

320

60.8

32.9

3,284

6.2

205.2

17

3.2

16

3.0

52T

40

4

24

180

76.9

2003

SD

11

356

205

57.6

32.4

2,108

5.9

191.6

11

3.1

15

4.2

68T

28

5

21

178

67.5

Troy Aikman

Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate

1989

Dallas

11

293

155

52.9

26.6

1,749

6.0

159.0

9

3.1

18

6.1

75T

0

0

19

155

55.7

1990

Dallas

15

399

226

56.6

26.6

2,579

6.5

171.9

11

2.8

18

4.5

61T

0

0

39

288

66.6

John Elway

Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate

1983

Denver

11

259

123

47.5

23.5

1,663

6.4

151.2

7

2.7

14

5.4

49T

0

0

28

218

54.9

1984

Denver

15

380

214

56.3

25.3

2,598

6.8

173.2

18

4.7

15

3.9

73

0

0

24

158

76.8

1985

Denver

16

605

327

54.0

37.8

3,891

6.4

243.2

22

3.6

23

3.8

65T

0

0

38

307

70.2

Alex Smith

Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate

2005

SF

9

165

84

50.9

18.3

875

5.3

97.2

1

0.6

11

6.7

47

13

2

29

185

40.8

2006

SF

16

442

257

58.1

27.6

2,890

6.5

180.6

16

3.6

16

3.6

75

34

8

35

202

74.8

2007

SF

7

193

94

48.7

27.6

914

4.7

130.6

2

1.0

4

2.1

45

11

1

17

121

57.2

Colt McCoy's stats somebody didn't want us to see:

Year	Team	G	Att	Comp	Pct	Att/G	Yds	Avg	Yds/G	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	Lng	20+	40+	Sck	SckY	Rate

2010

Cle

8

222

135

60.8

27.8

1,576

7.1

197.0

6

2.7

9

4.1

47

23

2

23

132

74.5

Why would Solon want to include the season we ran routes down field for McCoy? That would skew the yards per completion average all the way to 7.1 from 5.9, which really gets inconvenient. 1 season we ran routes down field. The next we ran slant patterns into the heavy traffic of overcrowded boxes. Hard to expect tons of YAC throwing into a crowded phone booth all year.

As for all the other QBs displayed, moral of the story? Promising young QBs going to bad franchises struggle early.

Solon, I think you're just sticking up for all your neighbors down there in Texas that wanted Steve Walsh to be the franchise QB instead of Troy Aikman as early as the very first growing pain.

It's so honorable to root for all the QBs we don't have and root against the one we did draft.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by Solon16

And how many playoff wins did Tim Couch, Brady Quinn and Mike Phipps combine for?

The ONLY most valuable player we've seen in Cleveland was a 13th round draft pick named Brian Sipe thanks in large to the wonderful franchise healing powers of Mike Phipps at #3 overall.

Before somebody says Bernie Kosar - he was a supplemental pick. I liked former 1st roun pick Vinny Testaverde coming here after Tampa and leading us to 11-5 plus 1 playoff win. However, it sure seemed like the majority Browns fans hated his ass enough to prefer a QB that needed a step stool to take snaps from Center. And why? Eric Zeier had a nice preseason game or 2. We sure forgot our first round logic there didn't we? Philly fan was proud of us though.

[Solon16]

Just posting the facts bro...make your own conclusions. I have rooted for McCoy and still do...I have seen enough to think he isn't superbowl material, or even good enough to win a game in our division.

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by TheBestPlayersPlay

Huh. I only see 2 maybe 3 quality starting QBs in the entire league drafted outside of the 1st round. Ouch. (jury still out on Dalton, although he barely slipped out of round 1, and Hasselbeck was pretty good in his day)

Hmmmmm...........Hasselbeck, Young, Montana, Favre, Mark Brunell, Detmer and McCoy...............two things in common.

None were first round picks and all were mentored by Holmgren, but then he all of the sudden forgot everything when he moved to Cleveland........must be something in the water.

Any of those #1 QBs mentored by Mangini?.................just askin

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Any of those #1 QBs mentored by Mangini?

You sure do talk about Mangini a lot. Mind staying on topic?

You giving Holmgren credit for Montana is all we need to know about your views and how incredibly skewed they are.

Originally Posted by Flugel

Why would Solon want to include the season we ran routes down field for McCoy? That would skew the yards per completion average all the way to 7.1 from 5.9, which really gets inconvenient. 1 season we ran routes down field. The next we ran slant patterns into the heavy traffic of overcrowded boxes. Hard to expect tons of YAC throwing into a crowded phone booth all year.

I agree Tom. Thing is, we are stuck with this system, and this coach ...so we need a QB that can somehow transcend bad coaching. The antiquated Holmgren offense = McCoy's demise.

[1brownsfans]

Stats are overrated.

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Hmmmmm...........Hasselbeck, Young, Montana, Favre, Mark Brunell, Detmer and McCoy...............two things in common.

None were first round picks and all were mentored by Holmgren, but then he all of the sudden forgot everything when he moved to Cleveland........must be something in the water.

Any of those #1 QBs mentored by Mangini?.................just askin

Well done Ytown! BTW, Kurt Warner was also in one of Holmgren's training camps early on.

Are we really going to pretend all new millenium QBs going to struggling franchises come without growing pains? I don't know why people act like we've had all the criteria in place to tell if Wallace OR McCoy has what it takes. There isn't 1 receiver on this team that could start anywhere in the division and maybe the conference except Josh Cribbs right now.

Aaron Rodgers didn't win his first playoff game until his 6th year. He didn't start until his 4th year on a team that just went to the NFC Championship just 1 year before startsies. Alex Smith won his 1st playoff game in season #7. Immediate? Really?

Carson Palmer never won a playoff game.
Akili Smith never won a playoff game.
Tim Couch never won a playoff game.
Cade McNown never won a playoff game.
Brady Quinn never won a playoff game.
Matt Leinart never won a playoff game.
Vince Young never won a playoff game.
JP Losman never won a playoff game
Patrick Ramsey never won a playoff game.
Kyle Boller never won a playoff game.
Joey Harrington never won a playoff game.
Ryan Leaf never won a playoff game.
David Carr never won a playoff game.
Rick Mirer never won a playoff game.
Jamarcus Russell never won a playoff game.
Jason Campbell never won a playoff game.
David Klingler never won a playoff game.
Heath Shuler never won a playoff game.

We sweep all those guys under the rug every time we pretend guys like Matt Schaub, Kurt Warner, Jeff Hostetler, Joe Theisman, Joe Montana, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Matt Hasselbeck, Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, Mark Rypien and Tom Brady just can't possibly exist after round 1.

The first time we drafted a hotshot QB at #3 overall we gave Paul Warfield to Don Shula to make it happen. Then we needed a 13th round QB named Sipe to bail us out.

THEN, we drafted Tim Couch 1st overall only to see our VERY patient fan base cheer when he lay motionless on the field because get this I was told "the cheers were because everyone was just overjoyed to see Kelly Holcomb." Really? Many of those were some of the same fans thinking "I'm only cheering for 1st round QBs and preferably ones that aren't here." Um, God bless ya!

Then, when we grabbed a former 1st round QB Vinny Testaverde - he led us to 11-5 and a playoff win over Parcells Patriots. All our fan base ever wanted to do was boo him because the 5'10" Eric Zeier had 1 or 2 nice preseason games. 1 more example of a 1st round QB not keeping the boo birds silent.

Then we moved up to draft Brady Quinn to save us from Charlie's Fryes. That was fine until DA intercepted plans, we went 10-6 and 2 consecutive coaching staffs inclusive of Mangini never saw the same delight that Savage saw in Quinn. Pro ready my ass! He was good kid though; so YES I wanted him to succeed like every QB we bring here. I'm going to give Quinn credit for the exchange value of Peyton Hillis plus a late round draft pick.

History tells me you can draft 1st round QBs forever when the right ones aren't on your door step. If we get Luck without giving away too much - I'm in. All you guys that have watched 2 Baylor games in the last 4 years - let's not pretend Big 12 stardom matriculates to NFL stardom. Look around and obsreve what history shows you. Above all, just remember it only took you 21 starts to put our current Big 12 QB in the biggest cyber recycle bin in America.

[nickers]

Originally Posted by Flugel

Well done Ytown! BTW, Kurt Warner was also in one of Holmgren's training camps early on.

Are we really going to pretend all new millenium QBs going to struggling franchises come without growing pains? I don't know why people act like we've had all the criteria in place to tell if Wallace OR McCoy has what it takes. There isn't 1 receiver on this team that could start anywhere in the division and maybe the conference except Josh Cribbs right now.

Aaron Rodgers didn't win his first playoff game until his 6th year. He didn't start until his 4th year on a team that just went to the NFC Championship just 1 year before startsies. Alex Smith won his 1st playoff game in season #7. Immediate? Really?

Carson Palmer never won a playoff game.
Akili Smith never won a playoff game.
Tim Couch never won a playoff game.
Cade McNown never won a playoff game.
Brady Quinn never won a playoff game.
Matt Leinart never won a playoff game.
Vince Young never won a playoff game.
JP Losman never won a playoff game
Patrick Ramsey never won a playoff game.
Kyle Boller never won a playoff game.
Joey Harrington never won a playoff game.
Ryan Leaf never won a playoff game.
David Carr never won a playoff game.
Rick Mirer never won a playoff game.
Jamarcus Russell never won a playoff game.
Jason Campbell never won a playoff game.

We sweep all those guys under the rug every time we pretend guys like Matt Schaub, Kurt Warner, Jeff Hostetler, Joe Theisman, Joe Montana, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Matt Hasselbeck, Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, Mark Rypien and Tom Brady just can't possibly exist after round 1.

The first time we drafted a hotshot QB at #3 overall we gave Paul Warfield to Don Shula to make it happen. Then we needed a 13th round QB named Sipe to bail us out.

THEN, we drafted Tim Couch 1st overall only to see our VERY patient fan base cheer when he lay motionless on the field because get this I was told "the cheers were because everyone was just overjoyed to see Kelly Holcomb." Really? Many of those were some of the same fans thinking "I'm only cheering for 1st round QBs and preferably ones that aren't here." Um, God bless ya!

Then, when we grabbed a former 1st round QB Vinny Testaverde - he led us to 11-5 and a playoff win over Parcells Patriots. All our fan base ever wanted to do was boo him because the 5'10" Eric Zeier had 1 or 2 nice preseason games. 1 more example of a 1st round QB not keeping the boo birds silent.

Then we moved up to draft Brady Quinn to save us from Charlie's Fryes. That was fine until DA intercepted plans, we went 10-6 and 2 consecutive coaching staffs inclusive of Mangini never saw the same delight that Savage saw in Quinn. Pro ready my ass! He was good kid though; so YES I wanted him to succeed like every QB we bring here. I'm going to give Quinn credit for the exchange value of Peyton Hillis plus a late round draft pick.

History tells me you can draft 1st round QBs forever when the right ones aren't on your door step. If we get Luck without giving away too much - I'm in. All you guys that have watched 2 Baylor games in the last 4 years - let's not pretend Big 12 stardom matriculates to NFL stardom. Look around and obsreve what history shows you. Above all, just remember it only took you 21 starts to put our current Big 12 QB in the biggest cyber recycle bin in America.

This post was absolutely beautiful...5 stars My friend!

[hoorta]

Originally Posted by Flugel

We sweep all those guys under the rug every time we pretend guys like Matt Schaub, Kurt Warner, Jeff Hostetler, Joe Theisman, Joe Montana, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Bart Starr, Johnny Unitas, Matt Hasselbeck, Rich Gannon, Brad Johnson, Mark Brunell, Mark Rypien and Tom Brady just can't possibly exist after round 1.

The first time we drafted a hotshot QB at #3 overall we gave Paul Warfield to Don Shula to make it happen. Then we needed a 13th round QB named Sipe to bail us out.

History tells me you can draft 1st round QBs forever when the right ones aren't on your door step. If we get Luck without giving away too much - I'm in. All you guys that have watched 2 Baylor games in the last 4 years - let's not pretend Big 12 stardom matriculates to NFL stardom. Look around and obsreve what history shows you. Above all, just remember it only took you 21 starts to put our current Big 12 QB in the biggest cyber recycle bin in America.

Well, Walter's football has thrown McCoy under the bus- but I'm not quite ready to do that yet. If H&H do I'll abide by their far superior insight.

BTW, in your listing of massive fails of first round qbs, how could you forget Todd Marijuanovitch?

The concrete example of where you wind up busting on first round qbs lies 55 miles to the south of Dayton- home of the Bungles. Ah Dave Kingler. Nope. Ah-kill-me Smith, he of the worm burner pass. Nope, not him either. Carson Palmer, like #1 overall? Close no cigar. Andy Dalton second round? BINGO!!!! Just like Bummer Esiason, and a couple of other second round bums like Brees and Farve.

So let's not get our panties in a bunch saying MUUUSSSSTTT draft RGIII- yet. (You-know-who would)

One thing I took away from the GB-NY game is, you can make the greatest qb in football (Rodgers) look average if you can pressure him- and you can make the far inferior qb (Manning) look like Rodgers- if you give him all day to throw.

Sure, McCoy regressed- but then OTOH, so did Mr. #1 overall, Sam Bradford. Anyone care to bet Fisher will dump him and take RGIII?