Browns want to trade up...to take RGIII

[SoCalBrownsFan]

I wouldn't......we have too many needs to be giving draft picks away for a QB who may not pan out. Discuss....

[Solon16]

This has got to be the worst I deal I've seen yet...Heckert better sit tight at 4 and let the draft play out...hopefully this is a smoke screen so someone else jumps up to grab him, leaving us sittin pretty with either khalil(huge trade bait) or Blackmon at 4.
The ONLY way we should trade up is for the cardinal QB!

[golfer704u]

Agreed Solon and glad to see that even one of the biggest RGIII fans understands that our situation isn't so bad that you want to panic and trade away good draft picks when you might not have to to get the same guy. And if you lose out on that guy that it wasn't meant to be.

I also agree 100% with the writer of the story as far as the comparisons of Bradford and McCoy go.

[Fooleeze]

That's hilarious. . . Rams need to build around Bradford, yet the Browns have a hole at QB. . . when McCoy had better stats, and the same depth, protection, new system, and injury issues that Bradford had. Unbelievable.

Silly season. They're trying to get someone to trade up to take RGIII in hopes that Blackmon will drop.

[Enigmatic Evil]

Trading up... yeah unless its for Andrew Luck, no thanks. Do NOT trade up for RGIII. That is a BAD move.

[lemosley01]

A million times NO! If he's there when we pick and we really want him, then you take him. Trading up to get him? Is Savage advising again?

I'm not sold on him at 4 as is.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by lemosley01

Is Savage advising again?

Nope, just his twin! Is it REALLY a stretch that the guy who "absolutely would have traded for Kolb. He's the real deal and I would have went up to two 1sts to get him", the guy who gave up a 1st and 3rd for a 350lb NT, the guy who gave up a 2nd, 3rd, two 5th's, a 7th and Corey Williams for an injury prone RB would be willing to also overpay for the All-hype Harrell III? It wouldn't surprise me one bit and honestly it would be fitting for this F.O.

[Sez.EJ]

If we want RG3... we should be trading down to get him... not up. I know QB's get overrated at draft time..but seriously..he may be worth a shot if he's there with our 2nd first rounder (I know he won't still be there)... ..but a #4???.. no way.. I am hoping we can get Washington, Seattle or some other sucker to give us picks for him. We could reap HUGE rewards if we could get someone to trade up to our spot.. It could launch us to the next level.

[Legendary]

We need 5 plans and forget trading down.

1. Pick Justin Blackmon and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
2. Pick RGIII and and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
3. Pick Matt Kalli and and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
4. Pick Trent Richardson and and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
5. Pick Luck if he come to number 4 and do this if this is possible.

[Flugel]

Ironically, the article compares Big 12 QBs showing McCoy actually had a better 2011 season than Bradford (who was drafted #1 overall in 2010). I've certainly been wrong before when it comes to QBs but when does somebody BEGIN to consider why the Big 12 has so many disappointing QBs at the pro level?

I think it's a culture shock of going from no defense and countless uncontested routes on good teams to landing on BAD teams facing very good defenses that contest routes with NFL closing speeds. To add to all that, is the complex formations and schemes that makes these kids hold onto the ball longer than they ever needed to in college. And when you don't have enough play makers - I don't see how moving up for another one makes any sense at all.

Wyche stated in that article St Louis might have a bigger need for a QB than Cleveland. Jeff Fisher was used to a TOUGH QB named Steve McNair that could take a hit and play through injuries. Bradford has durability concerns so I wonder if they don't consider a QB with that choice at #2.

I think if QB is inevitable, I'm hoping we're researching more than 1 QB after we didn't even understand Donovan McNabb existed in 1999. What does RGIII have passing-wise that Case Keenum does not? Trading up for Brady Quinn because Phil Savage read a mock draft in cyberspace that concluded "pro ready" was brutal. How about handing the Miami Dolphins a a talented WR like Paul Warfield so we could move up to draft Mike Phipps? EVERY time defenses cheated Safeties up to defend Csoncka, Kiick and Morris - they went deep to Paul Warfield for a nice 17-0 season. We got the prototype QB that failed.

When you do NOT research adequately - you choose Tim Couch over Donovan McNabb, Spergon Wynn over Tom Brady and Scotty "Plus 3" Milanovich over Kurt Warner. It's crucified us to date. I'm hoping if we trade anywhere for anything it's for the very best play maker in the draft: he's Just Tone Blackmon.

A West Coast Offense without a Jerry Rice is like a season without Sunshine!

[next2nothing]

Originally Posted by Legendary

We need 5 plans and forget trading down.

1. Pick Justin Blackmon and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
2. Pick RGIII and and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
3. Pick Matt Kalli and and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
4. Pick Trent Richardson and and do this if other 3 is unavailable.
5. Pick Luck if he come to number 4 and do this if this is possible.

The only options we should think about at #4 is WR, QB or trading down.

Blackmon will probably be gone by the time we pick and with the need of a legit WR and a QB... if we take Kalil, I'll rage hard. Richardson isn't a bad pick in my eyes but I don't want us to take him at #4. Especially if Hillis is re-signed. Luck is going to be the #1 pick so that dream train left a long time ago.

Trading down is not some bad option. Yes, I know we've done it the past couple drafts but one of those years we had to trade down because we had no freakin picks. At #4 if Blackmon is gone and some team offers us an exchange of our #4 for their 1st round pick plus more picks why wouldn't we take it? We have more holes on this offense than swiss cheese and the defense still needs a little help.