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Originally Posted by Flugel 
At least you responded to Riff. I haven't gotten any responses from you as to why you would have cut Steve Young, John Elway, Troy Aikman and Drew Brees for their inabilities to make those around them look better in their first 32 starts. There's a larger part of NFL history you're choosing to shed a blind eye to and that's young QBs goign to BAD NFL franchises typically struggle early. Maybe I've been following NFL trends since the 60s and you find that too inconvenient. |
Consider, Steve Young DID get traded after 2 years. He was effectively cut because Tampa gave up on him and drafted Vinny Testaverde. Steve then got to sit behing a quality QB in Montana, and learn the game. I don't see Young's situation as comparable to McCoys, unless we are going to bring in Manning and let McCoy sit for a couple years.
Elway was not good in is first year, but that is nothing unusual. He got a lot better in his second year. We haven't seen 'getting better' from McCoy. Staying the same is about right.
Further, Elway was a #1 overall (traded by Indy to DEN). With a #1 overall, you are COMMITTED to that QB for several years at minimum. McCoy isn't a #1 overall and we don't have #1 overall money tied up in him. He is a 3rd rounder that, if he doesn't seem to be improving, you can cut bait and move on - it isn't a huge loss, other than the time.
Aikman also was a #1 overall and was given a gigantic contract (at the time the largest ever by a fair margin, as I recall). When you have that kind of money wrapped up in a guy, you don't throw him away after two years. It took Aikman 3 years to get it (his 4th season was was where it came together statistcally), and his accuracy got better every year.
I don't see McCoy's situation being similar to Aikman's either.
Finally, there is Brees. Brees was drafted in the 2nd round - not a #1 overall. Then SD had the opportunity get a #1 overall franchise QB (remember there was Rivers and Manning), while Brees performance was up in the air. Remember, under Brees the Chargers were good enough to draft #1 overall in 2004.
However, SD gave him two more years after they draft Rivers, and it did start to come together for him. And then he got hurt. What do you do when the guy you have suffers a shoulder injury (which is usually bad news for a QB) and you have the #2 overall pick in the draft sitting on your bench. SD did what they thought they needed to do. It seems to have worked out for them, because it isn't exactly like Rivers has sucked.
And we're ignoring the fact that I dont recall how well any of those guys played during their first several seasons - did they show accuracy or were they scattershot. Calm under pressure? Making good decisions or bad ones, etc, etc.
I just don't see McCoy's situation comparable to any of these guys. He isn't a #1 overall and he hasn't had the luxury of learning behind a future HOFer. He doesn't seem to be improving in the areas HE controls (decision making, accuracy, etc).
I DON'T think it is worthwhile to reach for a QB just because you need a QB. If you are going to get a QB, make sure you are getting a good one, not drafting one early just because you need one. That's why we see so many busts on 1st round QBs - teams always reach for them when they probably don't deserve to be picked that high.
If we can't get Luck, then there is no point in drafting a QB in this draft. Maybe a FA, but I am leary of Flynn, and I don't know who else is available that will IMPROVE the team over the long haul. I don't want a vet to come in and 'help' us win 6 or 7 games so that we don't have the opportunity to draft THEY GUY if he comes available again.
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01-25-2012
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