Heath Evans rips Holmgren, praises Belichick for building teams. #Browns #NFL

[Riffer X]

Anybody trying to hold Walrus accountable for what Evans said would have to do the same with Mangini but many times over. Hard ass coaches are going to get backlash, Paul Brown used to bitch out Bobby Mitchell right in front of Jim Brown for something Jim did. Besides, Evans may have been doing several things that were annoying Walrus and he just said the one thing to him.

I do not, however, like playing faves in any shape or form, and that goes in any sport on any level. When you start doing that ala Butch Davis, you will get a severed locker room with guys being irritated at others for not giving the effort or having spies, ala Fat Monies and Andre King.

I also don't agree with Evans that Seattle was so over inundated with great talent compared to the rest of the league while Walrus was there. This is simple to me, Alexander was known to be soft around the league and I am sure within the locker room, while Evans was a tough guy FB. He didn't like it, so be it.

[Sez.EJ]

Maybe Evans is just trying to spark his new career as it may be heading the way of his playing career... so he decided to be controversial to get his name out there. You never know the motivations behind these things.

[King of Kings]

It is so funny watching the fanboys bounce up and down on Holmgren's 3" dick.

Anyways let's compare.

Belichick's way which is actually just the Parcells system of doing things renamed vs the Holmshit way of coddling certain players and enabling cancers like Seneca Wallace and Koren Robinson....

The Parcells method in the last decade:
8 Superbowl appearances
6 Superbowl wins

The Holmgren method:
2 Superbowl losses

Yeah, it's not exactly rocket science. One system of doing things dominates the NFL and game of football, one hasn't done shit in over a decade. Not a big surprise Evans prefers the right way of doing things. Likewise it's not much of a surprise he disliked being on an underachieving team that as the 49ers and Cards used to put it "is soft and weak." Why would he?

I thank him for his honesty, no matter how uncomfortable it makes the Holmgren fanclub in Cleveland. Thank you Heath Evans for being captain obvious.

Oh, btw, "just one player?" I seem to recall Holmgren's former boss in GB, the guy who actually built the team he had calling him an egomaniac and having harsh words for him. It's hardly "just one person" who has harsh things to say about Holmshit.

[Solon16]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

It is so funny watching the fanboys bounce up and down on Holmgren's 3" dick.

Anyways let's compare.

Belichick's way which is actually just the Parcells system of doing things renamed vs the Holmshit way of coddling certain players and enabling cancers like Seneca Wallace and Koren Robinson....

The Parcells method in the last decade:
8 Superbowl appearances
6 Superbowl wins

The Holmgren method:
2 Superbowl losses

Yeah, it's not exactly rocket science. One system of doing things dominates the NFL and game of football, one hasn't done shit in over a decade. Not a big surprise Evans prefers the right way of doing things. Likewise it's not much of a surprise he disliked being on an underachieving team that as the 49ers and Cards used to put it "is soft and weak." Why would he?

I thank him for his honesty, no matter how uncomfortable it makes the Holmgren fanclub in Cleveland. Thank you Heath Evans for being captain obvious.

Oh, btw, "just one player?" I seem to recall Holmgren's former boss in GB, the guy who actually built the team he had calling him an egomaniac and having harsh words for him. It's hardly "just one person" who has harsh things to say about Holmshit.

Cleveland Browns=NEVER BEEN! I'd like to get there first before we kick out a coach now president who has been there twice with to different teams.(as HC) and 3 as an OC. Capeesch! Especially with a season of lockout,no training camp and a rook HC that didn't really have time to implement his offense. We will know fairly quick (by game 8 next year) if he and his team are upwardly mobile in this league!

[Masters]

I'd love to see those quotes of Holmgren's former boss saying all that. All I have seen is Wolf saying in the SB against DEN MH failed to make the necessary adjustments and it cost them that SB (wow, a coach made a mistake game day, that's never happened).

[YtownBacker]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

It is so funny watching the fanboys bounce up and down on Holmgren's 3" dick.

Anyways let's compare.

Belichick's way which is actually just the Parcells system of doing things renamed vs the Holmshit way of coddling certain players and enabling cancers like Seneca Wallace and Koren Robinson....

The Parcells method in the last decade:
8 Superbowl appearances
6 Superbowl wins

The Holmgren method:
2 Superbowl losses

Yeah, it's not exactly rocket science. One system of doing things dominates the NFL and game of football, one hasn't done shit in over a decade. Not a big surprise Evans prefers the right way of doing things. Likewise it's not much of a surprise he disliked being on an underachieving team that as the 49ers and Cards used to put it "is soft and weak." Why would he?

I thank him for his honesty, no matter how uncomfortable it makes the Holmgren fanclub in Cleveland. Thank you Heath Evans for being captain obvious.

Oh, btw, "just one player?" I seem to recall Holmgren's former boss in GB, the guy who actually built the team he had calling him an egomaniac and having harsh words for him. It's hardly "just one person" who has harsh things to say about Holmshit.

Nice post Ghoolie or whomever you inspire to be............Easy to see why Heath Evans is your new hero...............trash journalism.

Something about the 3" dick thing that sort of makes your post irrelevant, pathetic and not to be taken serious.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by YtownBacker

Something about the 3" dick thing that sort of makes your post irrelevant, pathetic and not to be taken serious.

You mean like every bullshit post you've ever made on this board?

[Crow]

[Sez.EJ]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

You mean like every bullshit post you've ever made on this board?

Perhaps Y-town is saying it just makes you look like an angst ridden teenager resorting to vulagarity and spewing venom about a guy you you have chosen not to like. Not to mention insulting your fellow posters. It does take away from your credibility.. It's fine to have a divergent opinion... that's what the board is about.. but you do yourself a disservice with that nonsense.. You're a better poster than that.............................................. ....................... Or you're jealous of his 3".

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by Sez.EJ

Perhaps Y-town is saying it just makes you look like an angst ridden teenager resorting to vulagarity and spewing venom about a guy you you have chosen not to like. Not to mention insulting your fellow posters. It does take away from your credibility.. It's fine to have a divergent opinion... that's what the board is about.. but you do yourself a disservice with that nonsense.. You're a better poster than that.............................................. ....................... Or you're jealous of his 3".

Y-Town is doing what he has been trying to do for several weeks now, take shit personal and attack me as if I killed his yappy little dog because he can't debate his homerist acceptance of a shit front office. Simply put Sez you should know by now I don't turn the other cheek. He wants to shit talk me he gets it in return and you can try to flip that being on me I don't really care.

As for the rest? I wouldn't hold your breath on me waking up and deciding hey, i'll kiss Holmgren's gigantic ass from now on and believe against what I see with my own two eyes. It's probably not going to happen no matter how much his fanboys hope it does.

Now how about we all shut the fuck up about me for a change. Last I checked my name isn't in the OP's thread title nor topic and frankly this "we can't debate him so let's just insult him and throw threads from the facts he brings" bullshit tactic the fan club has decided to use is GETTING. FUCKING. OLD.

[Sez.EJ]

King: I hear ya.. but for me.. I believe it's much too soon to judge this new regime fully. We have not really even had a full year of what Holmgren's vision is with HIS hc and staff in place as there was not even an offseason last year. Heckert's been here 2 years.. he's done pretty well with his drafts and trades so far..

I for one, believe Holmgren at this point, is the best football guy we have had on top for a long time.. I don't think he craps roses though.. he makes mistakes like ever other human being I have ever met.. But His plan has barely gotten started in my opinion..

I think his biggest mistake so far was not getting his staff in place from day one.. That' is a big mistake on his part. He knew Mangini was never going to be his guy.. It made little sense..But as I said.. no one is perfect and mistakes will always be made..there is not exact science in this..

So now he has his guy in Shurmer.. we have a nice set up in the draft with 6 picks in the top 4 rounds, and a full offseason with OTA's mini camps, and training camp, and a real free agent period (unlike last year)

... our talent is still crap..So while I expect improvement.. even with a near perfect draft.. we will still be talent shy to the other teams in our division.. but we must start improving and quickly..

The biggest problem with this team have been crappy drafts.. followed by a revolving door of coaches and upper management.. We have to keep some stability in that arena.. even if it does not yield championships.. it will stabalize the team long term. Right now we are the lousiest franchise in the NFl.. due to the continued rotation of coaches, staff, and bad drafts.. along with bringing in 10+ QB's who all have been pummelled to death cuz we have never fully fixed the OL, or given them playmakers.. We just keep bringing in QB's thinking that will fix everything.. It won't . We cannot continue doing this and think anything will change for the better.