QB Rumors

[DawgFan]

The rumor mill now has us interested in....DONOVAN MCNABB!!!

We have gone from Kevin Kolb (ex Phili) to Matt Flynn (soon to be ex GB) to Donovan McNabb (ex Phili) in just over a month. Add in the RGIII rumors and it is obvious to one and all that the Browns have exactly zero faith in McCoy.

I am not saying they do, but isn't the fact these rumors are out there just perfect if we are in fact focusing the draft on Blackmon? I mean, if we don't actually trade for any of the above guys and a team out there wants RGIII, they will almost definitely go for him at #2 in fear that the Browns will make the play for him there or at least take him at #4.

So, that sets up the following draft scenario:
1. Indi: Luck
2. Was?: RGIII
3. Min: Kalil most likely
4. Cle: Blackmon

Again, not saying there is no fire under all the smoke. Just saying, it is amazing the smoke coming out of Cleveland.

Not all of it even about QB. Just look at the new news on Hillis. Smoke and mirrors? Or are the Browns just hedging their bets in case they decide to trade back a few and take Trent Richardson?

I love the silly season. It lets my mind wander into far fetched (or maybe not so far fetched) conspiracy theories on the workings of the minds of NFL coaches and GM's.

[YtownBacker]

When a team needs a QB rumors will always be there. Sometimes they are only tied to a team because of former coaches. Hell, yesterday I heard that Cleveland was in play for Manning because they have the cap room to add hi and some WRs he may want. Also that Chilly will let a veteran QB come in and run his own system.

I believe that as much as I believe anything about McNabb or Kolb.

[Riffer X]

McNabb will come here when I want to squeal like a pig ala Ned Beatty.

[Sez.EJ]

I heard a rumor the Colt McCoy will be the QB next year..

[TheBestPlayersPlay]

He'll be a good mentor for RG3.

I could see us landing Blackmon in a trade down, he's not worth a 4.

[next2nothing]

Originally Posted by Riffer X

McNabb will come here when I want to squeal like a pig ala Ned Beatty.

You sure gots a purty mouth on ya.

[Riffer X]

Originally Posted by next2nothing

you sure gots a purty mouth on ya.

retract!! Lol

[Flugel]

Originally Posted by DawgFan

The rumor mill now has us interested in....DONOVAN MCNABB!!!

13 years ago that would have been a terrific idea. Today, it's absurd. Dawgfan, I've never given up my arguement that the only thing I see wrong with Colt McCoy is a set of handcuffs via no tools to work with. There was no chance at success in last year's environment, which was why the alleged experienced WCO alternative remained winless.

Leading the league in dropped passes compounded the problem. We also heard countless former QBs (Fouts, Gannon), WRs (Tasker) and Coaches (Mora Jr) concluding after a week of film study that McCoy needs some serious help here. The guy that did the game with Fouts when we played SF kept showing a well covered Greg Little while Fouts was complaining that he saw no routes downfield for 3 quarters (prior to the downfield TD pass to Cribbs) = throwing into a crowded phone booth. Throwing into a phone booth = 0 YAC and 100% YUCK. Even worse, a smart kid like McCoy wasn't allowed to audible to a swing pass or wheel route when our WRs clearly weren't coached up for blitz route adjustments. Until we add foot speed - that's the FACE of our passing game giving McCoy far too much credit for all the ugly. When I see tons of passes bouncing off Greg Little's chest - is a Nolan Ryan fastball really the solution?

About the idea of drafting a QB at potential pick of the litter area - think of Donovan McNabb back in 1999 instead of 2012. That's why you do it even though we already had a Ty Detmer first on the depth chart. We just picked the guy that needed more talent to work with than McNabb out of the shoot. As much as I believe in McCoy and want him to do well - I don't know that he'll respond to the challenge like Drew Brees did after being labelled as pond scum for 3 forgettable seasons. BAD TEAMS don't make assessment criteria complete at all. Nobody looks at WHY McCoy went from being everybody's favorite QB here in 2010 with a 7.1 yard per completion to pretending Seneca Wallace is Mr Wonderful while McCoy's yards per complete dropped to 5.8. The WHY is important if the depth of the passign game is being evaluated.

I like RGIII if we don't have to trade away picks. Having said that, he's already drawing the rave reviews while it will be popular among scouts to attack Andrew Luck for the stats of throwing exclusively to 3 TEs most of the year. In the process - that inflates trade value asking price which will exceed way more than swapping #4 for #2. And that's when I start to think Case Keenum or Brandon Weeden falling to our doorstep a little later wouldn't exactly suck. Case Keenum's numbers, career and winning percentages are impressive as Hell. BTW, I don't think McCoy forgot how to win either. I DID witness us beating New Orelans, New England and taking a AFC Championship bound Jets team to OT when his completion got fumbled at the Jets 30 yard line. That was a 3 week first impression I refuse to throw away regardless of how popular it always is in Cleveland to HATE the starting QB. Practice makes perfect.

Changing QBs won't turn the Quincy Morgans of the NFL into Jerry Rice. On the other hand, Jerry Rice has changed the success rates of Steve Young, Steve Bono and I think he was there when Jeff Garcia transitioned from CFL to NFL Pro Bowls (if not - maybe it was TO as a top WR). I think everyone should play chess with only pawns against an opponent with all the attack pieces. Then after you lose, let me know how fair it is to call you stupid or worthless. That's what we're doing to Colt McCoy IMO regardless of what our opportunity is to land a cream of the crop at QB. 2 seperate entities.

[lemosley01]

Originally Posted by Flugel

Changing QBs won't turn the Quincy Morgans of the NFL into Jerry Rice. On the other hand, Jerry Rice has changed the success rates of Steve Young, Steve Bono and I think he was there when Jeff Garcia transitioned from CFL to NFL Pro Bowls (if not - maybe it was TO as a top WR).

Changing QBs won't make bad receivers good - but QBs like Peyton Manning and Tom Brady who DEMAND excellence from their receivers and have coaches to back them up, don't have to deal with bad receivers for too long before they are replaced. Nonetheless, consider the greatness that receivers from Indy and NE have gone on to after leaving those places...wait, they haven't, really, have they. Every year Manning and Brady are at the top of the passing charts. Their receiving corps changes (in Brady's case, yearly or even more than once a year), yet they continue to perform at league-leading levels. What is the one constant? The QB.

BAD QBs can make good receivers look bad. Balls thrown in the wrong place, or with too much or not enough juice on them, poor timing (which is always blamed on the receiver, but it isn't always the receiver - sometimes it IS the QB).

I think we have a combination of 'bad-to-marginal-QB' and 'bad-to-marginal-receivers'. I don't think that drafting a WR at #4 is going to fix the QB aspect, and the grade Blackmon is getting doesn't scream 'game-changing receiver worthy of a #4.

[jblackmon81]

Why would we do that? I thought we were done with bringing in old free agents way past their prime!

Don't sign McNabb, unless you expect him to be on the practive squad.

Jake Delhomme anyone?

[next2nothing]

This rumor only has wings because Heckert was connected to the Eagles and bc Childress was the QB coach/OC for McNabb. I don't expect us to sign him and if we do I might punch a small child in the face.

[golfer704u]

IF we sign McNabb and DON'T have RGIII here, then I will stop watching the Browns until Holmgren and Heckert leave.

Now understand. I don't believe they will do that. I think the ONLY interest they have in McNabb is as a veteran back up mentor to RGIII. And I'd predict that IF MCnabb comes here he'd be #3 behind RGIII and McCoy. But I don't believe he comes here.

But if he comes here and starts ONE GAME that isn't because every other QB on the team is hurt, then I am DONE.