So...Next Year

[Crow]

What are your expectations? How loose is your leash on the coach, coordinators and front office?

Feel free to answer the poll.

[Crow]

I think we win one or two more games next year. 5-11 is our likely destination, 4-12 is an outlier given this team's talent. If we draft a first round QB, even more so.

Given we'll probably draft RGIII, I am loathe to switch coaches on a new QB but Shurmur is so bad - if he doesn't make a sudden abrupt face I can't give him a third year. He shows such little potential - if I'm going to commit to a guy for seven years, they have to show more promise than Shurmur. I don't want to make him our Cowher and wait 13 years for a SB.

[Dawglady]

Less than 7 wins ...fire everybody but Heckert. (and maybe him too if he fails at the biggest offseason since the return)

[brownsdownunder]

Our roster is stronger than when Mangini was here, and with two first round picks and judging from our last two drafts, the roster will be even stronger this year. Nobody could have taken that team to a superbowl in just two years, and the injuries haven't helped in any way. I think the 2012 team can be big improvers and with the coaching staff we've hired they can make the plays and players get to a new level.

[nickers]

Originally Posted by brownsdownunder

Our roster is stronger than when Mangini was here, and with two first round picks and judging from our last two drafts, the roster will be even stronger this year. Nobody could have taken that team to a superbowl in just two years, and the injuries haven't helped in any way. I think the 2012 team can be big improvers and with the coaching staff we've hired they can make the plays and players get to a new level.

Our roster was filled with aging backups when Mangina was here...We need Wr's and O-line help in the worst way

[Enigmatic Evil]

Hmm... Another 4-5 win season, expect the fan backlash to be HUGE and Planet Holmgren will finally be on the hot seat where it deserves to be, honestly. North of 6-7 wins shows PROGRESS and people will start to breath.

[next2nothing]

If they draft well and if we actually dip into FA this off-season will help. Also I hope, for the fan's sake, that Shurmur's play calling last year was due to having no talent and not his usual play calling.

If these things get improved upon than I bet we will see progress above this year. If not... then it is going to get ugly around Cleveland.

[Riffer X]

You're in it waist deep at that point, so you pretty much have to commit to Shurms and leave everything intact. That is why some were saying to can his ass this last season rather than wait any longer, but now you pretty much have to stick with the continuity path.

If they get this draft and FA right, they should be able to hit 500 or better while letting McCoy continue to grow with better personnel.

[Jax Dawg]

Ha! I was able to vote twice so I fired the coaching staff keeping Heckert then had sex with Katy Perry!

[Riffer X]

So is this Katy Perry a piece of ass or what?

I guess I could actually try that Google thar thingamajig.

[Riffer X]

http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Katy-P..._story-8532002

[Jax Dawg]

Of all the pics of Katy Perry you found the one where she had blue hair? WTF Russ?