Browns Really Want to Move

[Shep]

Couldn't find anywhere else this fits, but it's certainly getting interesting.

Browns could be caught in a vise at No. 7
Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2010 12:35 PM ET

As the draft gets closer, there's one team that is believed to be "panicking" based on its position in the top ten.

With five or six truly elite players in the draft pool (Sam Bradford, Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Russell Okung, and possibly Eric Berry), the Browns potentially will find themselves with the first pick in the second wave of round one.

As we hear it, the Browns don't believe there's anyone who can sufficiently help them at No. 7 to justify using the pick. They don't sufficiently love cornerback Joe Haden or running back C.J. Spiller to take either of them at that high financial slot. If Berry squirts through, he could be the pick.

So that's why the Browns are exploring a move in either direction. The problem will be to find someone else who wants to use the seventh pick on a player who may not justify the financial investment, given that the team that uses the selection will be faced with the slot-busting Darrius Heyward-Bey contract as a starting point.

The only way the Rams would come down to No. 7 would be to get quarterback Jimmy Clausen. The only way someone would come up would be to get Clausen or Kyle Wilson or Dez Bryant or someone other player that a team in the teens secretly loves.

Either way, that four-game winning streak to end the 2009 season has created an unwanted consequence. The Browns are now stuck in a round-one no-man's-land from which they may not be able to escape.

[mohican]

I think it's likely that Berry will be there. KC and Seattle will conclude that they need OTs.
Of course, I have been incorrect before.

[tsw47th]

I can't believe this guys gets paid to do what we do for free. Although we probably have more cred.

[DeadWombat]

Florio has a good point, but it doesnt hide the fact that he's just talking out of his ass again. I'm pretty sure we've known of this for months now.

After watching more tape on Suh, I would REALLY, really love to have him. Either that kid eats his spinach or has discovered how to turn into the Hulk without getting green skin. Either way, he's special. Bradford would be great too, but I don't think he's worth the cost. There is a chance that Berry will fall to us. If he doesn't I fully expect the Browns to trade. I would be mildly surprised but not shocked even if we traded up. Heckert has a long history of making multiple trade downs and trade ups in the draft. I think he's done at least one every year since 2002 and has done a whopping total of 23 as GM for the Eagles. A couple of days ago the Plain Dealer had a great article that detailed Heckert's draft history.

In the shadows, Browns GM Tom Heckert finetunes plans for draft: NFL Insider | cleveland.com

I dunno if it was posted here but take a look if you haven't seen it yet. Heckert has a proven history of solid drafting and the man loves his draft day trades.

[King of Kings]

Wow so Florio painting yet ANOTHER black, bleak outlook for Cleveland? What a surprise. Not really, i'm just surprised it took him so long, for awhile there it was shit like this daily then it halted. It's a nice spin, really, freakin' Browns stuck with a useless 1st round draft pick and unable to trade down unless THEY make sacrifices.

With five or six truly elite players in the draft pool (Sam Bradford, Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Trent Williams, Russell Okung, and possibly Eric Berry),

Uhhh hey Florio, this draft is FULL of truly elite players in the first. We have ALREADY SAID we have 24 of 'em on our list we're considering.

So that's why the Browns are exploring a move in either direction.

No, no it isn't. We're looking at jumping ahead if we can land Bradford reasonably. We're exploring trading back into the mid to late first to stockpile a few more early draft picks to stock this team with some talent. Try and keep up Flo'......

The only way the Rams would come down to No. 7 would be to get quarterback Jimmy Clausen. The only way someone would come up would be to get Clausen or Kyle Wilson or Dez Bryant or someone other player that a team in the teens secretly loves.

Yeah uhhhh no shit sherlock......

[PlaygroundLegend]

Hey guys.... I think Im right... I have a feeling were going to trade up to #1.........

lets stir this thread up with this article...

Talk increases that Rams would trade down on the cheap

Posted by Mike Florio on April 20, 2010 6:53 AM ET
The draft is two days away, and there's growing talk in league circles that the Rams would be willing to trade out of the No. 1 overall selection for a package far less than the outdated draft trade chart would require.

The thinking is that, if the Rams stay put, they'd feel compelled to take quarterback Sam BradfordA.J. Feeley or Keith Null or someone else takes the snaps. (Then there's the whole "exploding shoulder" thing and the whole "spread offense" thing, which Bradford tried unconvincingly to explain away during a Monday interview on with the No. 1 overall pick. But there's a concern that Bradford, who hasn't played much football since 2008, will end up on the bench for most if not all of 2010, while Jim Rome Is Burning.)

Some believe that the Rams, who have won six games in three years, would prefer to pick a player who can step right in and play -- and if they can acquire more picks or, perhaps even better, extra players who can immediately contribute, it would be a bonus.

Then there's the value that comes from stepping away from having to fork over the record contract that the first overall pick will receive, especially if it's a quarterback.

So who would trade up? The primary candidates are the Redskins (No. 4), the Browns (No. 7), and possibly the Seahawks (No. 6).

And for those of you who think that the Redskins wouldn't pick a quarterback in round one, the one quarterback they'd potentially pick is Bradford, whom offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan would begin to develop behind the scenes, potentially with the idea of coach Mike Shanahan engineering a torch-passing to Kyle after two or three seasons with Donovan McNabb at the helm.

For the Rams, the biggest question is whether they'd be willing to take the heat for taking a package that would pale in comparison to the deals done in past years at the top of round one. Given that the Rams have suffered through far greater indignities of late relating to and arising from on-field performance (or lack thereof), they should be thrilled to be criticized for making a move that potentially will improve their current circumstances significantly.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by DeadWombat

A couple of days ago the Plain Dealer had a great article that detailed Heckert's draft history.

In the shadows, Browns GM Tom Heckert finetunes plans for draft: NFL Insider | cleveland.com

I dunno if it was posted here but take a look if you haven't seen it yet. Heckert has a proven history of solid drafting and the man loves his draft day trades.

Thanks for posting that. VERY informative and has me even more excited about the draft. Heckert knows his shit and knows how to hit on talented guys without a doubt, ESPECIALLY IN the first three rounds. That's why I been saying stockpile and consolidate as many picks in those rounds as possible, 'cause Tom can hit again and again and again and again early and often. It's not outa question we could compose 7 or 8 picks in rounds 1-3 and hit on all of 'em with Heckert.

[grimmreaper3]

Ohmygod really? You really think the Browns are going to ask the Rams out?

I knew that the Browns liked the Rams, but the Browns are, like, a really shy team. He must really like her.

[mohican]

PGL, I've read several places that if the Rams stay at 1/1, they want their pick inked. Bradford has told them no go on this, and today says he hasn't heard from them about picking him......Hmmmm

IMO, if we give up a few things to get to #1, I would rather do it to take SUH than Bradford.

What would you move up for, a decent to good QB with injury history who by default is the "top qb in a weak QB draft", OR "A once in a decade DL prospect"

If I was trading up, I'd go for Suh. Plus, the added benefit of making a lot of draftniks wet themselves when it happens..........

[Shep]

Respectful disagreement: I'm not sure anybody has ever packaged a bunch of picks to take a defensive tackle at #1 overall. There's a first time for everything... but I think it's really, REALLY unlikely.

The Browns have some decent depth at DL with Rogers, Rubin, Mosely, Coleman, Smith, and Schaeffering, who came on last year. Could I see someone else? Yeah. But not at the cost of a ton of picks for a team with a lot of needs.

QB is a unique situation not to be equated with any other. Teams WILL package picks and players to get a top guy if they love him. It's the talisman. I don't think teams see even a great DT in that regard.

[golfer704u]

I'd have to agree with Shep here. To trade a whole package of picks for a defensive lineman wold be quite the unusual move. and in my opinion would also mean the Browns would have to have a pretty low opinion of the QBs in this draft.

[MackTruck]

Meh. None of the so called 'elite" talents really are a slam dunk fits for the Browns. The DT's aren't, they don't need a OT and Berry isn't a top 5 pick IMO.

That leaves QB's, which aren't that good, but QB's always get overinflated.