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The Reality of Picking #7

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Brown's aren't in a very enviable position with the #7 pick in this years draft. You have to believe that Bradford, Suh, McCoy and Okung will be gone and you still have 2 teams in front of you and this is what your board very well might look like. Maybe not in this order exactly.

Berry
Earl Thomas
Trent Williams
Haden
Spiller
Bulaga
Clausen
Dan Williams

Two of those guys will most likely be gone to KC and Seattle and everybody wants to trade down, nobody is calling to trade up. Now, you could add Pierre-Paul and Dez to that list but can you really afford to pick someone with question marks at #7.

I'd be hoping that somehow Berry might fall. I believe he is head and shoulders above the rest of the list for our team. Would you be willing to make an offer to move two spots with KC to get Berry? The cost might be too high.

Take away Berry to KC and Spiller to Seattle. Is Earl Thomas or Haden really a reach? Look at the list......... Also what about Trent Williams, maybe not a priority need, but I'd love to see him opposite of Joe Thomas for 10 more years.

I'd hope someone might want to move to get Clausen, but it certainly doesn't look like that is going to happen. I think teams are willing to watch him fall to them.

So, if you don't like the options above, what's an alternative? Any players you think should be added to that list? You can't just manufacture a trade, you have to have a trade partner.

This isn't a great year to be picking at #7. Seems like everyone other then Berry is a reach except Trent Williams and he isn't a priority. I'm glad I'm not Heckert.

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I like where we at.. we have holes all over and many good players to pick from.
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I'm not really enamored with the "consensus" top 2 qbs in this draft.

If everyone that needs an OT takes and OT, then Eric Berry is there. KC, with Romeo is the kicker.

If Eric Berry is there, then if they have to stay at#7, for me its

Haden
Spiller
Earl Thomas
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Picking 7th means you have to overpay somebody. Whether it is Berry or Clausen. Picking later in the draft gives you more options
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Not that we can, but I'm all for trading down & getting an additonal 2nd (if we can)

Especially if Berry is gone
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Who would you pick from the group above or add someone if you want?

I posted it because I wanted to see what other thought. I have been reading where some guys are saying Thomas is a reach at #7 and Haden is worth a #7 and we don't need another linemen at #7. Then I put the guys out in front of me and am saying, hey, what's the better choice.

Just tryong to drum up a conversation that isn't all QB shaded.

Do you think Berry would be worth moving up for if it only cost us one of our 3rds? I see him as a can't miss Reed or Palu and that for me means you can completely change what you do on defense with Berry at FS/SS/CB/edge rusher...................He can do it all and lead church services on Saturday night (that part is a stretch). But, great character and great work ethic.

Unless I really felt Thomas was as good or close, I'd be willing to trade up. I don't think I could let this guy get taken in front of me. I believe he is that big of an impact player.
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Who would you pick from the group above or add someone if you want?
As I've said before, I think the Browns WILL chose Haden if Berry is gone (and the Browns can't trade down).

Goes back to my line-of-thinking that recently acquired CB Sheldon Brown is slid over to Safety and then you have Haden at one corner and Wright at the other.
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If we have to pick at #7 in order:

S Berry - fills the S ballhawking roll
CB Haden - shutdown CB, can work on an island
OT Williams - OL would be best in league
DE Morgan - tweener could go DE or OLB for us
LB McClain - solid inside guy
RB Spiller - threat...but where do we play him
S Thomas - 2nd best S...hard to take at #7

(guys I doubt will be there so not listed: Bradford; Okung; Bulaga; G.McCoy; Suh)
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As I've said before, I think the Browns WILL chose Haden if Berry is gone (and the Browns can't trade down).

Goes back to my line-of-thinking that recently acquired CB Sheldon Brown is slid over to Safety and then you have Haden at one corner and Wright at the other.
What's ironic is that so many analysts are now saying teams need to get away from the SS concept because of the emphasis on passing and almost go with 4 corners back there.

One of the reasons I like Berry so much. He can cover the slot guy, play centerfield and also is solid if you need to move him in the box. He's definately a 3 down guy that you don't have to sub for in speciality packages.

Thomas is a solid cover guy with good ball skills but he isn't the run support guy that Berry is. For that reason, Haden could very well be a better pick.

I think I am like most everyone else. Berry or move down a few spots where Haden, Thomas and some of the others will still be available.
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A CB makes little sense now. I think you have to look what fits:

1.Browns signed Dellie to a big 1 year contract and a much smaller 2nd year. It doesn't sound like they are taking a QB high in the draft.
2.The Browns need saftey even if Elam is brought back(as expected).
3.We don't have a WILL right now. DQJ is considered undersized and they want to trade him
4.Heckert's BPA is political line not a realism.
5.That equals either Berry or McClain. Berry is considered the best saftey prospect since Taylor. McClain is the top "WILL" prospect in this draft.

Of course a trade down would reset the picture.
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KC wants Berry so that eliminates them as a trading partner. The team to trade with is Washington. They want a LT. I f we go to #4 and take Berry thats leaves them 3 top LTs still on the board with 3 picks to go. Skins need and want to aquire picks. They might do it for our first 3rd rounder.
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I'm all for trading down & getting an additonal 2nd
I think that is the plan, but I don't think we should do it for a low 2nd. If Berry is there, and we trade down to maybe 13-17, grab another 2nd, and still grab Earl Thomas, I would be stoked.
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