Joe Haden

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by Flugel

High 5 Alo!

I'll bet Ryan and Mangini LOVE these corner blitzes on film. I can't believe how freakin fast Haden gets from the line of scrimmage to the QB. It's REALLY impressive. I think we can throw out those Indy 40s when we see footage like this. PLUS guys with a nose for the ball - get places quicker because they have good instincts, anticipation and vision all working in unison.

Thanks for the video!
- Tom F.

Not just corner blitzes though either. But blitzes from all over. we have 42 linebackers on this team (ok I exxagerate). Adding a second shut down corner to this team allows Ryan to open up his brain and start to really throw blitz schemes at opposing defense with out the worry of the DBs getting torched.

[mohican]

Originally Posted by Flugel

Do you mean you weren't drinking when you promised Clausen was round 1 material? I appreciate the honesty Shep. 32 teams had ideal opportunities to get him near the close of round 1 and nobody wanted him. Minnesota and Arizona would have been ideal places but they exercised the no thank you reply extremely well.

Don't worry though - round 2 is still a compliment for the Golden Child or Golden Tate and even the REAL McCoy. Why knee jerk for any of these guys in upper round 1 when they're still available in upper round 2?

There's a 70s tune with a lyrical line that fits the situation: "You don't have to be a star baby - to be in round 2."

- Tom F. (I'm really impressed with Todd McShay's pre-draft logic, poise and accuracy about the supply and demand of the 1st round QB this year! That guy really did his research.)

I can tell that when you moved from Buffalo to memphis that you kept your sequined, white polyester suit. Clausen sliding makes me more inclined to take Tate, Colt McCoy, or "The best available defender"

I like Tate. Or someone who can score some points.

[Brownie-_-]

Originally Posted by Fooleeze

You know, I watched that video on Haden, and while his corner blitzes and coverage are good, it doesn't seem like his tackles are really very consistent. I saw a lot of arm tackles, bouncing off of offensive players, and even a violent stiff-arm or two. But maybe that can be coached up.

He doesn't tackle well??
He'll fit right in...

[DeadWombat]

Haden is a great player and a good pickup.... just not at #7 overall. However... we were stuck in a shitty situation, drafting 7th in a draft with 6 elite prospects. I would have wanted to trade down, but I wouldn't be surprised if no one wanted to trade with us. I don't think he'll match the value we paid for him, but he should be a good player. And yes, I think we still needed a CB despite having Sheldon Brown.... CB was not our greatest priority, though.


I think it was just a decent pick... but it was the best we could do in the situation we had. Gotta hand it to Holmgren and Co.... CB was one of the weakest positions last year. This year, it will be one of our strengths.

[DieselPusher]

Originally Posted by Shep

I really wish I'd been drinking (!).

Dude, clausen would of gone in the first round had more teams needed a QB, but that wasn't the case. Flacco would of dropped to the 2nd round had that not been a year people needed QB's.

Now got of the ledge and come back inside. The second round is only hours away.

[DieselPusher]

Originally Posted by DeadWombat

Haden is a great player and a good pickup.... just not at #7 overall. However... we were stuck in a shitty situation, drafting 7th in a draft with 6 elite prospects. I would have wanted to trade down, but I wouldn't be surprised if no one wanted to trade with us. I don't think he'll match the value we paid for him, but he should be a good player. And yes, I think we still needed a CB despite having Sheldon Brown.... CB was not our greatest priority, though.


I think it was just a decent pick... but it was the best we could do in the situation we had. Gotta hand it to Holmgren and Co.... CB was one of the weakest positions last year. This year, it will be one of our strengths.

H3 said, when you draft in the top 10 you have to get a guy that will play for you for 10 or 15 years. Haden was the right choice. They didn't have to roll the dice with him. He played against top flight WR's nearly every week and did the job.

[Masters]

Clausen fell out of the 1st round because he isn't seen as 1st round talent. Plain and simple.

[hammertime]

Joe Haden is an immediate starter for us.

The only way to screw up the #7 pick would have been picking Clausen or Bryant.

Starters baby!!!!

[brownie]

Originally Posted by OconRecon

I like the pick. Smart. Solid. Not flashy, but has teeth.

at least the "teeth" are on our side this time (elway)

[damajuki]

joehaden5

Bark it up!!!!! Just landed in clevland the love was crazy in the airport! Bout 2 head 2 the facility

Posted 12:10 p.m.

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Joe is in the building. Er, city. Pretty cool. Feeling better about this all the time. Feels like the right and smart move.

[Alo]

Originally Posted by Fooleeze

You know, I watched that video on Haden, and while his corner blitzes and coverage are good, it doesn't seem like his tackles are really very consistent. I saw a lot of arm tackles, bouncing off of offensive players, and even a violent stiff-arm or two. But maybe that can be coached up.

Haden's a very good tackler. Like Eric Berry, he'll have a few of his tackles broken, especially when he doesn't use proper technique, but he's a better tackler than Earl Thomas or any of our current cornerbacks.

I think the clip is unfair to Haden in that respect. You really need to watch the games to appreciate that aspect of his game.

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by Alo

Joe Haden highlights/lowlights

YouTube - JH09


I'm very happy with this pick.

I liked his recovery after maikng a mistake in the passing game. But, saw him miss a lot of tackles in the open field when he was one on one. Son, you need to learn how to wrap up and take better angles. That was pretty weak. Nice blitzes and pass coverage, but that tackling is going to need to be better.