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There is no way to know if Harris and Revis start and are upgrades. (posted after OTAs I believe)
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Well I had a bit of time on my hands surprisingly so I did a bit of research on Revis and his rookie OTAs as well as rookie mini-camp. I went through every day of his OTAs and found almost ZERO about the guy. Nothing positive, nothing negative ...just some questions as to whether he could be a starter or not. In doing the research, I noticed he seems very similar to Haden in a lot of ways when coming out of college. (forgive me if this is repetitive I didn't go back through the whole "as the forum turns" episode in this thread)
Here's some info from right after he was drafted.
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So the big question is, was the price to get Revis too much? By acquiring picks #14 (1st round, 1,100 points) and #191 (6th round, 15 points) the Jets gave up #25 (1st round, 720 points), #59 (2nd round, 310 points ) and #164 (5th round, 25.8). So from a look at the draft value chart, the Panthers gave 1115 points of value, while the Jets gave 1055.8.
UPDATE: Here’s some quick notes (paraphrased) on what Mangini said on ESPN News at 3:40 PM EDT.
Mangini: They liked Revis’ athleticism, his play at line and coverage, his return abilities. After spending time with him, they liked him as a person. So it was combo physical play and who he is as a person … smart, tough, hardworking, selfless, football is important to him. They expect him to work hard with the Jets and they will with him. The Jets are excited to have him and his special teams is TBD. He has great ability and was attractive to the Jets. Regarding possibility to trade up for Brady Quinn? They Jets talked though many scenarios, but Darrelle was the player they moved up for. Also asked the host that if he gets a team to tip his hand … would he call the Jets?
Like me, you might not know a lot about Revis, so here’s some information to get you up to speed.
Here’s a detailed review of Revis, from New Era Scouting, after the jump …
General Traits
Athletic Ability – Is a strong, physical cornerback who possesses deceptive speed and quickness.
Character – Has no known character concerns.
Competitive Nature/Leadership Ability – Does not act as much of a vocal leader but is a player who gives it his all on the field
and never quits.
Football Intelligence – Makes quick decisions and shows good recognition skills on the field. Plays smart and does not make many
mistakes.
Size – Has average height for a cornerback but is well-built and strong in press coverage.
Toughness/Durability – Plays hard on the field and has had no major injury problems. Played in every game during his career.
Work Ethic – Somewhat quietly developed into one of the best cornerbacks in the country. Works hard to get better and started
all but one game in his three-year career at Pitt.
Position Specific Traits
Agility – Has shown a lot of shiftiness as a return man and does a good job of staying balanced and making quick, clean cuts.
Ball Skills – Has solid hands and good leaping ability. Shows the ability to close quickly and time his hits well.
Body Control – Revis is a fluid athlete who changes directions well and stays balanced. Does a good job of adjusting to balls while
in the air.
Instincts/Recognition – Is a very instinctive corner who is a major asset in the run game and rarely gets out of position. Makes
quick reads on plays and can break on the ball quickly.
Man Coverage/Turning Ability – Lacks the elite speed to consistently defend the deep ball but is a physical player who can make
up for that lack of speed by jamming receivers at the line. Makes smooth transitions but will struggle in man when not playing
tight at the line.
Pursuit – Does not have great speed, but he is instinctive and shows good burst. Is a solid tackler and makes a lot of plays against
the run.
Speed – Shows decent burst and quickness, and although his overall speed has been declared a weakness in the past, he erased a
lot of doubts by running the 40 in 4.38 at the Pitt Pro Day.
Tackling – Takes good angles to ball carriers, can deliver hard hits and has become very reliable in this area.
Zone Coverage – Plays with excellent instincts and closes quickly on the ball. Has great awareness and is rarely out of position.
Can be a playmaker when receivers are kept in front of him.
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And a couple of comments during mini-camp. It seemed people were much more enthused about Jason Trusnik and especially Chansi Stuckey as their were many positive articles and tidbits, especially about Stuckey. Doesn't lend towards anything ...other than refuting the preposterous statement that OTAs will tell you a lot about a rookie CB.
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Revis was not on the field today. Fans were a little down about the streak
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With Revis nowhere to be seen, Justin Miller and Chansi Stuckey did a lot of the afternoon punt return work. Stuckey looked capable in most of his work (with a few slight hiccups). A conversation among began about do we even want Revis fielding punts for injury reasons … an interesting point if he snags a starting job at corner.
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There was zero about Revis during mini-camp, due to the fact that he held out until the 3rd game of preseason.
My opinion is we have a shut-down corner in Haden ...which is all you can hope for. Time will tell.
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06-14-2010
The quotes about Stuckey looking really good... lol. Comeon.... minicamp and OTAs tell next to nothing about rookie players.... especially ones that play positions that involve a lot of hard contact. They arent playing football out there, guys. They're running around in shorts and catching a few footballs. There's no real pressure on any of the players. Can we fast forward to when preseason starts and we start running formations with intent to hit people? I'll save my obviously professional-level talent evaluations (
) until then.
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