Who wins the Super Bowl, QB-wise?

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by King of Kings

Funny thing is, NOBODY is in any gang. It is a joke, and quite amusing, especially considering i've never even had a conversation with Ytown, Veg, Masters or Sez but we're "in a gang" that's just "out to get Shep(poor victim.)

Speaking of poor victim, in the last 4-5 months Shep has been into it with the following: Vegasdogg, Ytown, Flugel, samoth, KingofKings, Masters, Gabe, Inspecta, Riffer, Alo and Sez. Either for being "douchy" or for being in some mythological "gang." 12 people in the example: ONE common denominator. Yet.... It's everyone elses fault, buncha meanieheads and all that lame bullshit.

I agree with part of what you said. but if you look at the posts honestly. Flugel, Samoth, Gabe, Alo, Riffer and myself can let it go once in a while and have real debates with Shep. It's clear to me some people can't.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

It sucks for me though, because I'd really love to be able to needle MZ about his dislike for Mangini more, but I don't because I don't want to encourage anyone.

Fuck 'em. Needle away. I am always ready to discuss Mangini.

[hammertime]

i don't reccomend anyone change the way they post or reply.

entertainment like this is hard to get for FREE.

qb threads are awesome just not as awesome as the cheerleader thread. these threads do get kinda convoluted with useless qb info. picking and choosing is the readers job though, so post away!!

[Shep]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

I agree with part of what you said. but if you look at the posts honestly. Flugel, Samoth, Gabe, Alo, Riffer and myself can let it go once in a while and have real debates with Shep. It's clear to me some people can't.

That's a flat-out undeniable fact.

Gabe and I made up long ago. I was so NOT the instigator there. I was blamed for fighting back. He missed where it started and we cleared it up, fact by fact.

Fluges and I have been friends. We've also had long, LONG arguments on about ten boards. I try to step away from it, for the most part. That's really not about me at all.

Riff and I are just fine and always have been. Have we gotten into it? Sure. But I don't think he's lost the thread or gone too personal.

Golf, you and I do fine as well, especially when it doesn't involve KoK, Y, Veg, or Sez.

KoK, I'm sorry you resent being called out, but it's righteous. You never do anything but instigate. It's literally all you do. You fit in with the other three in that way.

Start a thread. Have a thought. Be valuable. I'll give you the respect you will have earned. I don't hold a grudge. Even now, when Veg posts something good, I tell him. Naturally, he's never returned the respect, but he's not as sure of himself as I am.

[Inspecta]

Originally Posted by mz.

We have. Actually, quite often. But 1) we've never ever been dicky to each other, 2) it is ALWAYS football related and 3) it tends to get lost in all of the ancillary cock-measuring that goes on.

I'd love to see an example of this. Not saying you're lying, but I just haven't seen it, perhaps not recently because you are not wanting to be yet another person disagreeing with Shep.

[Shep]

Originally Posted by Inspecta

I'd love to see an example of this. Not saying you're lying, but I just haven't seen it, perhaps not recently because you are not wanting to be yet another person disagreeing with Shep.

We disagreed on and on about Quinn. He didn't like Clausen. There aren't a few examples... there are tons. We're just capable of doing it without going mean.

Again, I'm sorry, Sean... but there are currently just three problem children: Y, Veg, and KoK. Tom goes through periods like this with me about once a year for the past 15 years. He's not part of that gang.

It's a fact. They're blights. There is no human way you're gonna pull off a Houdini and make that go away.

[mz.]

Originally Posted by Inspecta

I'd love to see an example of this. Not saying you're lying, but I just haven't seen it, perhaps not recently because you are not wanting to be yet another person disagreeing with Shep.

We disagreed greatly in the weeks leading up to the draft where, though we both agreed that while the NFL had become a pass-first league, I defended the rationale behind drafting a top CB like Haden for that very reason and he was not buying it. It's where I argued that stopping your opponent from scoring was just as effective as scoring yourself. Hopefully that sounds familiar.

And I never wanted Jimmy Clausen.

[Shep]

Originally Posted by Inspecta

I agree with this statement completely. Yeah he gets a little pissy sometimes but we all do. He gets shit because of the whole "guilty by association"

It would be nice to see mz disagree with shep at least once though.....

Who's he associating with who is guilty of anything? He never hangs with Y, KoK, or Vag. But they do go after him a lot.

MZ isn't a great poster because he aligns with me or agrees with me all the time, because he doesn't. It's because he's smart.

Oh, Enigmatic Evil's another great poster who debates and disagrees with me, but we never go persona. Playground Legend. Legacy Fan. Crow, Grimm. Beans. Riceloft. Literally dozens.

The gang is small, Sean. You're gonna need to accept that people know this. It isn't veiled.

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by Shep

Who's he associating with who is guilty of anything? He never hangs with Y, KoK, or Vag. But they do go after him a lot.

MZ isn't a great poster because he aligns with me or agrees with me all the time, because he doesn't. It's because he's smart.

Oh, Enigmatic Evil's another great poster who debates and disagrees with me, but we never go persona. Playground Legend. Legacy Fan. Crow, Grimm. Beans. Riceloft. Literally dozens.

The gang is small, Sean. You're gonna need to accept that people know this. It isn't veiled.

and yet again, not one of those people you mentioned except for MZ and now me and sean have ever said anything to the three you think are the problem. again, why do you think that is?

[Shep]

Golf... I read that post before. It listed a lot of clever lines, but nothing mean OR insulting!

In fact, I wasn't condescending and I certainly wasn't "passive aggressive."

I get that some people don't like my style or the way I talk. And that's kind of tough shit and not really up to them. It's not an excuse for personal attacks. Just don't invite me to the BBQ, I guess.

[King of Kings]

Originally Posted by Shep

KoK, I'm sorry you resent being called out, but it's righteous.

Resent? What? What is there to resent dude?

Originally Posted by Shep

You never do anything but instigate. It's literally all you do.

Tell ya what, create a poll, put it to a vote. A simple yes/no will suffice. Title it "Does KingofKings have contributions to the forum." I will even make you a deal. If a majority agree with your assessment that I am as utterly useless as you proclaim? I will publically request to have my account canceled and I will leave forever. Go ahead.

Originally Posted by Shep

Start a thread.

I've learned my lesson on that one. I'm with Flugel on that one, wtf is the point?

Originally Posted by Shep

Have a thought.

Put that in a poll, too. I do have thoughts, and I have regularly posted them. At least I think I do, I guess the positive rep points and large amounts of private messages saying "that was a good post" might have been meant for someone else. After all, the self appointed leader of the board and the guy "keeping it going" according to only himself says I have no thoughts and have never contributed anything..... Over and over again.

Originally Posted by Shep

I'll give you the respect

To be frank with you Shep? I'm not interested in your respect. I don't have any respect for you and could care less if you give me your hollow version of "respect" or not.

[golfer704u]

Originally Posted by Shep

Golf... I read that post before. It listed a lot of clever lines, but nothing mean OR insulting!

In fact, I wasn't condescending and I certainly wasn't "passive aggressive."

I get that some people don't like my style or the way I talk. And that's kind of tough shit and not really up to them. It's not an excuse for personal attacks. Just don't invite me to the BBQ, I guess.

If you don't think those were insulting and condescedning to those that disagree with you, you are a hopless narcassist.