Vegasdogg

[Vegasdogg]

GENIUS - Gabe was talking about this being YEAR 4 of a rebuild and that was my response: How can you call this year FOUR when 75% of the starters are NEW!!

Not an excuse for the record. Not an excuse for the performance. Not an excuse for the coaches or the players.

It was a response to something else.

Reading comprehension, golfer,. You really fucking suck at it. Get off my cock now since you have no idea what the hell you're saying anymore.

Jesus dude stalk much.

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

Facts are, the didn't face those facts a year ago. SO I find it hypocritcal and laughable for him to use it as some high and mighty point when arguing with someone else.

Apples and oranges pal. I was referring to the GM and his abilites, NOT the coaching staff. Put you reading glasses on or use your brain - or maybe both. There is NOTHING hypocritical about be singing the praises of Heckert AND stating I think this team would go 10-6. Nothing! Was I wrong? Probably. But turning over 15 new starters AND stating I think the team would win 10 games is not hypocritical. You're just rubbing out your hard on for me, thats all.

Originally Posted by golfer704u

Trust me dude when you have to insert 15 NEW STARTERS, you're starting over on a new rebuild. You're just going to have to accept that as fact, pal.

Well why don't you post the entire fucking conversation asshat?

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

Add to it the fact that you can't disagree with people with out acting like an asshat and yeah. I've lost my patience with you. This board was actually enjoyable without you here for a while.

I give two fucks. Of course it was enjoyable, you didn't feel the need to follow my cock around all morning,.

Originally Posted by golfer704u

Again. you didn't just predict a 10-6 record , you denied that we would be rebuilding once again. Now that we can't make that record. You're talking about how its rebuilding. I don't care if it's about the GM, the coach or the waterboy. To me that's hypocritical.

Okay I am going to get serious here for a second -- you're a liar. You're either a liar or the worst reader this board has ever seen. I am thinking in all of you angst that you're a liar.

NOT one fucking time have I ever said this team needs excuses for being 4-7. Not one fucking time have I come on here and said the coaches are great and the players suck. Not once dude. Shit I defend these players MORE than I do the coaches so I don't know WTF you're talking about.

You are a fucking liar.

I never once denied any rebuilding. In fact motherfucker I said we have better talent, better coaching and an easier schedule so we should be 10 wins this season, with the thinking that we'd be on some sort of roll come BAL and PIT. That is what I said.

Excuses for the team being 4-7? Where motherfucker? I have already responded to you about the Heckert/15 new starters red herring, so now what?

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

That we were starting over agian and you chose to laugh at that, tell everyone we'd go 10-6 and not call it a rebuild then.

Get your shovel out and start digging up posts pal. I never laughed at anyone who said we were rebuilding. Not once. I said the new players and new coaches were better than last year, and they are. So where are the 10 wins? Who the fuck knows. We still have 5 games to play.

I am finding that you are pretty much a revisionist historian when it comes to what I say. Happy digging motherfucker, because I know that is what you're doing. It is futile - I am the least hypocritical on here when it comes to saying I was wrong, or keeping my facts straight.

Good luck with that pal.

[Vegasdogg]

Originally Posted by golfer704u

LOL how can you say there is better talent before the season started, and then half way throught this season call it that the GM is rebuilding?

And you wonder why I think Browns fans are stupid sometimes. That debate was about what Mangini left us, and what Heckert brought us. Had zero to do with 2011. It had to do with Gabe being all adamant about this is a 3rd year not a 2nd year. Whatever - he is wrong and now so are you because you can't fucking read to save you fucking life.

Originally Posted by golfer704u

You told me last year this wasn't going to be a "rebuilding year" you didn't differentiate that it would be a "GM REBUILDING" year.

You are high on drugs golfer. Gabe called this YEAR THREE of a rebuild. Get it? Understand how that worked out? He called Mangini's work rebuilding years and that the follow on GM didn't have much to do so this is really year three?

See I said no fucking way, not when the GM places 15 new starters out of 22.

I know you are too fucking jaded with me right now but those are the fucking facts man. Had NOTHING to do with 2011 being used for excuses for the coaches.

READ before YOU POST. You're looking dumber and dumber by the minute and one of you obligatory apologies will certainly be here shortly.